To millions of Americans: Your check is in the mail.
12.8 million US citizens are expected to receive rebates averaging $151 from their health insurers this year, the Obama Administration announced Thursday. That's due to a provision in the 2010 Affordable Care Act requiring insurance companies to spend at least 80% of the premiums they receive on actual health care, with a maximum of 20% going to administrative costs and profits.
"If the health care law had not been here, you wouldn't get a check," said MSNBC host Ed Schultz on Thursday's edition of The Ed Show.
If the insurers do not hit the 80% mark, they are mandated to send their clients a rebate to make up the difference. Employers who provide health insurance benefits to their workers must pass the rebate savings along to them.
Although 12.8 million Americans are expected to receive rebates, only an estimated three million will receive checks in the mail. NPR reports:
[N]early two-thirds of the 12.8 million benefitting are only entitled to pro-rated rebates, because they are covered by employers who pay most of their premiums. Workers typically pay about 20 percent of the premium for single coverage, 30 percent for a family plan. Employers pay the rest.
What's more, employers can plow all the rebate money, including the workers' share, back into improving the company's health plan. For example, they could shave premiums by a few dollars in each pay period.
If the Supreme Court overturns the individual mandate next week, it is unclear how that would effect the payout of rebates.
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Aliyah, thank you for posting this video and your write up. This needs to be understood by the public - very glad that the Ed Schultz Team put this out.
Of course no republicans will go our and cash these "give away" check, right?
just like they are not taking advantage of the "pre-existing condition", or the fact that they can keep their kids on their insurance until they are 26 years old.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
I cannot believe any Real American...anyone who believes in the rule of law and property rights, thinks this is a good thing. By what right, does the government have to tell a company to give back money freely earned via a contract freely entered into? If you think this is OK, then you are a thief, pure and simple...you believe it is OK to steal...you believe it is OK for the government to go to your neighbor's house and take from him in order to give to you. Which is what the is "law," does. It is theft...forcible theft, writ large.
Big deal. I just got a letter from my insurance company saying they're going to raise my rates 17%. Which means I'm paying for my own rebate.
As usual, there was no explanation. I guess saying "we're greedy" isn't in them.
Don't feel alone Chris I just got a letter from my health care insurance saying they are no longer going to cover inhalers for Asthma and Emphysema sufferers. But lucky for me for a mere $500 a year more in my premiums they have a "special" plan to people that qualify.
When is the reality that their lawyers are better than our law makers going to sink in? The insurance company will only make BIGGER profits off ObamaCare with the individual picking up the increased premiums. No one, Democrat or Republican will regulate premiums. The consumer pays more, the doctors get less in payment and guess who is left with the profit? What is annoying is to realize the Health Care Industry has given more $$$ to the Democrats and Obama than Republicans and Romney. I see nothing to cheer about as a consumer.
There will be a cap on the insurance premiums, but it doesn't start until 2014, which is why they're trying to raise them as much as they can before then.
Single payer is and was the right answer.
Kragg, #2.4 Your lips to God's ears.
Instead of lowering rates and providing good care at reasonable rates, the insurance companies would rather spend millions on advertising, lobbyists and CEO pay. They have made themselves hateful and despised.
Thank you President Obama for caring and doing something for us and not against us!
Demselizabeth, It will be a sad day if the right wing Supreme Court takes that affordable care away. People do not realize how good it is, as most of it hasn't even begun. In time, folks would have loved the mandate as it covers a large pool and would cost way less for coverage.
The damn GOP doesn't want us to have anything. Remember who it was that sent this to the SCOTUS, the Republicans.
Obama is most likely hoping beyond hope that the SCOTUS overturns it. If it happens, Obama gets to take credit for the bill, can blame SCOTUS for dumping it, and the job market will become healthy- which he can then take credit for. If the ruling goes that way, he has a win-win.
If they leave the bill intact, he will be on the hook for results- read above where Chris is already moaning about increases that far outpace his rebate- and the job market won't improve meaning he will struggle to get re-elected. Go ahead and attack these thoughts, but they are probable.
Funny how when you post an inconvenient truth, it sort of dries up the converstion real quick.
What fact was that? The only fact that you prove are that you are a tea bagged republican who thinks talking points 34 years old are fact because you been repeating them for 34 years and that is a fact. Oh here is another fact you are sneaking around to dead topics and posting your victory brags that no one is replying to your bull@!$%# and that too is a fact.
OK- goofy- My premise is that if the SC tosses Obamacare- he wins the election. If not- it's a tossup.
Obamacare stays- then it is a mjor drag on job creation going through at least the end of the year- following the current trend. If Obamacare gets tossed- then Obama takes credit for passing it, blames the SCOTUS for its demise, job markets come back and hiring picks up with the threat of Obamacare gone- Obama gets credit for job growth.
Why wouldn't Obama quietly hope it gets tossed?
If the $151.00 is suppose to cover the 22% increase in my Health Care cost as a result of Obama Care it is a little short. So much for reducing the cost. I wonder if people that don't pay a penny for their health care will get a check, you know like the people getting a refund for more than they actually paid in income tax.
No. The employer gets it.
That increase is a result of corporate greed not ACA.
Obamacare's Gross Costs Double to $1.76 Trillion, CBO Projects
The gross costs of the national healthcare law rammed through Congress by President Barack Obama will reach an estimated $1.76 trillion over 10 years – nearly twice the amount originally projected.
The Affordable Care Act is a very good foundation as Senator Tom Harkin described it. The Obama administration officials wrote this law specifically to be appealed by a Supreme Court challenge. I can remember reading lots and studying the interstate commerce clause in the Constitution. This clause was used to uphold the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act. One case in the 1960's upheld by the Warren Court said that any public business engaged in interstate commerce can not discriminate against people based on race, gender, religion, etc. Because public businesses buy products manufactured across state lines and therefore are engaged in interstate commerce. I was hoping that the interstate commerce clause could be used to maintain the individual mandate for health insurance that I strongly support.
There also is a national security reason to require all Americans to have health insurance. When recruits come from families that do not have health insurance often times preexisting medical conditions can either make the services reject the recruit on medical grounds or far worse the recruit gets initially accepted into the military services but later on fails out because of a medical condition precludes them from passing the physical fitness standards of the services. This latter outcome means that $500,000 to $1,000,000 worth of training can get wasted on a recruit that can not complete their first term of military training. Billions of taxpayer dollars are essentially wasted on a recruit that has been fully trained but discharged from the services on medical grounds. This is a heart breaking scenario for the Non-commissioned officers tasked to train these young recruits because we always wanted them to succeed. The young recruit wants to serve out his contractual term of service but is discharged because of their failure to meet physical and medical standards necessary for military deployment overseas. Preexisting conditions resulting from that recruit coming from families without adequate access to the health care system are likely the cause of most of these problems. I don't need a Harvard Medical Study to tell me what I know about training soldiers for 20 years. We need a Medicare for all public option so that we can maintain enough young recruits for military service. We need a Medicare for all public option on national security grounds. The British passed the National Health Service in 1948 exactly because of this reason of national security.
Rex, Doesn't the military have basic medical and physical fitness standards that must be met prior to enlistment or commissioning? In addition less than 10% of the population actually serve in the military.
National security....what are you talking about Rex? An individual mandate means government doesn't have to fit whole bill that it has to pay for those with no insurance. It insures that an individual with not get away with paying nothing for health services. This means less money has to been spent and that perhaps affects national security.
2e.... I guess he's still stuck on we'll have to pass it to see what's in it.
Unlike Republican bills which never get passed because we know what's in it.
I had pretty good health inusrance blue cross blue shiels. Over the last 8 years my wife had app 150,000 worht of hospital bills. My out of poket max was likE 2500 then went up to 3500. Paid blucross and blue shield about 4500 a year. So I hope its one hell of a check, Im going to pissed if its like 300 dollars.
I'm with you High rolla. Fat Ed never tells the whole story, he just wants everybody hyped up by saying "your check is in the mail". What a bunch of bull s**t. Typical MSNBC liberal crap. I'm with blue cross, blue shield, I'll be shocked if I get a check in the mail. Right after Nobummer signed the Nobummer care act my premiums with BC/BS were increased. Press A if you believe Fat Ed's B S, press B if you don't.
As soon as the name-calling starts, my listening stops. Problems will NEVER be solved if people can't come to the table with their mature brain in gear.
Personally, since I only use a small amount each year of what I pay in, I'm hoping I stay healthy, but I notice it the right side trolls that are doing the crying now. FUNNY. Especially since they never like handouts.
High rolla, and adam1-2690401~~You guys need to realize, without the ACA, you would receive no refund at all. The refund is for this last year only. It is not pro-rated back to the beginning of time. Premiums have been increasing drastically almost every year for the past 30 years, due to greedy insurance providers, becoming greedier and greedier each year. They started with the co-pays, about 20 years ago and continue raising them also. You guys need to learn the true facts, concerning the cost and benefits of the ACA, and anyone with a brain the size of a pea, could understand, that the ACA is in the best interest of all of us. Ed always states the true facts. If facts are important to you, do your own research, just don't expect to get true facts from fox lie and propaganda channel.
Adam, The Ed Show is not a show of BS. If you don't like it, turn the channel. President Obama is the president of the United States of America. If you can not show respect for our president, Ed and all posters on this forum, just say good-bye, go away and don't come back.
As usual, no mention of the millions on Medicare who forewent COLAs for two years, had services cuts and Medicaid jerked out from under them, at least here in CA. While everyone is touting the "success" of "Obamacare" we who wound up paying more for less coverage aren't even a background whisper.
Which had nothing to do with Health care reform but rather 2 years of no cost of living raises which has nothing to do with health care but rather the way congress determines cost of living. Medicaid has nothing to do with Social Security so look at the Gov of the state and state congress for that, as medicaid is a welfare program.
nofsdad,
The Affordable Care act has not yet even begun to operate. Only a very few services are currently in place, like you can't be refused for a pre-existing condition and kids can stay on parents policies for much longer, I think till 25 years. The rest has not yet been in play. The insurance companies are playing greed games as they know that when it does kick in, they're not going to be able to hike the cost for people.
Please try to get the facts about "Obamacare". You are not getting them now, thanks to the toxic "news" station and the toxic talk shows.
India-
VIGILANCE!
hope we can go on to single payer. was all for the public option.....................
2ez4: America needs a Medicare for all public option for its national security needs. The services have physicals that all recruits have to make when entering. However, these only pick up obvious medical conditions. The military has to put the bodies of these recruits under strain. For instance, infantry soldiers have to be able to carry 80 lbs in a pack on their back plus other equipment on a 12 mile road march even in extreme heat or cold. This is one of countless examples of training service members in all the branches have to go through. The Navy has exhausting physical demands that all sailors must be able to perform because fire fighting aboard a ship is grueling, taxing physical work. Heavy equipment and dragging heavy hoses around and under a cavernous ship up and down ladders or steps in hot fire suits and masks make breathing difficult. Fire fighting on a ship is probably as exhausting as a 12 mile road march. If you are not highly fit and in good medical condition you can not perform these types of duties period. Preexisting conditions that were not treated in childhood start to make that recruit more likely to be injured during training. These injuries do not always heal up to military medical standards and the recruits career is over for job fields that have strict physical fitness standards. The British had lots of trouble with recruits failing out of training or else being rejected during WW II so after the war the British passed the 1948 National Health Service Act. Conservatives in Britain supported the measure strongly because wealthy Britain's slept in the subway with poor people or were in one of the services right beside them.
We will have to do the same thing here in America for our national security. We can not have 50 million uninsured Americans and have a healthy society. We need to have healthy recruits for the services. Also healthy recruits from the general population mean our school children will get better grades and learn more in school. Plus a healthy, well educated, group of young people will help businesses and companies remain more competitive because the work force is more productive. Countries with universal health care coverage have lower health care costs because the family care providers pick up and treat routine problems consistently. Thus a healthier population means in the 21st century global economy America can compete against countries that have cost advantages over us with universal health care. A Medicare public option for all is critical to keep our country equal with our competitors and our military threats aimed out our national interests.
151.00????? Who are these people. I have 26 employees and I pay all the costs of their health care. My premiums, since Obama took office, have gone through the roof. If this piece of junk bill is not over turned I will have to ask my employees to pick up some of the costs every month. That will be a lot more than 151.00. Who the hell does Obama think he is. 151.00........Does blow hard Ed think this is real money. No it is not. Ed has his head in the sand. The American people deserve better........151.00. WOW, maybe I'll buy a car.
Hey, Dave, go take a ride by the house of your insurance CEO's and see who is really yanking your bucks!
Oh, I love the right wing whine when it effects them!!!!! We have been trying to tell them. But no, we lefties never know what we are talking about according to them. Yep, Liz.....we only see the poor guy who sold us the insurance and he gets his small commission off our insurance every month. The Insurance company get the rest and they spend all their time maneuvering how they will not pay. Good luck all!
Same ole re-runs......They never change their made up stories.
Yep TM my thought exactly, programed recordings of vast wealth and go getterisms ( a word I made up for TBR's who are delusional ) when reality is from their own posts you can tell they are not what they brag they are because simple facts are missing from their posts, they also brag they did it all alone with no help from no one, a lie they made up.
Dave,I retired before Pres.Obama took office,and I seem to remember every year our insurance premiums going "through the roof".If we did'nt want a 20% increase we would have to pay much higher deductubles and higher copays.So stop playing the blame game on the Pres.It's the greed of the ins.companies and the for profit hospital's CEO'S you should blame.Can you imagine what our children and grandchildren will be paying if something is'nt done NOW!
I buy my policy for my family of 5 as an individual and am paying the same about per month as I was 4 years ago and have the same amount of coverage.
Dave- if this stays intact through the SCOTUS, then we will have single payer coverage. Obamacare includes a small "fine" for a company to not have health insurance so that those employees can be rolled into the national plan. Obama knows it is a money loser- in a big way- deficit driver- but will save you money.
DEMELIZABETH...........You poor socialist, Insurance companies are in the business of making money. CEO'S run the companies and as such gets paid to to it, unlike you and your freinds, that want to freeload of the backs of people such as me and over half the country. It is the American way to make money and Obama wants to take over the health care business and let the Government run it. And as we all know the Government is just peaches in running things. Get your head out of la la land and try to be a true good and decent American. Quit letting these blow hards indoctrinate you. These people are a cult and they will keep trying to take over our great freedoms if you and your friends keep being clueless.
I know this is going to be a shock to you, but they're supposed to be in the business of insuring people so they get medical care, not squeezing as much money out of them by holding their health hostage.
It's not really supposed to be a "pay us or die" extortion scheme, which it now is.
And by the way, you are not the person who decides who a "true" American is. If you've ever read the US Constitution, it starts out with "We the People", not "Us and our friends" or "We the Corporations".
Dave.... You're wasting your time. They still think insurance companies make a fortune off each person out there. And they think any profit they make is some kind of sin. Now it is suppose to be a 20% profit for the insurance company. Well, what about that bottle of water or that bottle of perfume or that pair of glasses where the company marked the product up 1000%? Insurance companies are not in the business of providing you with health care. They're in the business of making money, like any other successful business, with the exception that they have to take a much higher risk in determining what premiums they charge so they won't lose their butts. The product they offer is to pay your health care cost. Room rates, charges for prescription drugs, hospital bills, doctor's bills, insurance for the doctors to protect themselves from unscrupulous attorneys that sue for $20 million dollars and win against the doctor or hospital determine the rates the insurance company has to charge us for our insurance coverage. It's not as simple as some would like to have you believe. Obamacare is already projected to be twice as much as it was before we passed it to see what was inside it and I bet it that is understated. Dave, I bet there isn't one of these liberals that have ever run a business. I know you probably have hired that employee that after a few weeks was telling you how to run your successful business. What can you say, Dave?
oh come on dave and sixpack, do you really think this is about you and onlt ones that have their own business. not. this issue is about everyone. so come down off your high-horse's and quit putting down everyone who's beneath you.
Billie, those 'intellectuals' still don't (And never will) understand thats it fine to make a profit, but when you promise a service, you are required to fulfill that service and not cheat your customers by refusing to pay by pulling a lame excuse out your ass like 'its a pre-existing condition', 'we are not required to pay', or drop your coverage after you've paid into it for 10 yrs after you file a claim. If those 'intellectuals' are ok with getting screwed after paying in 700 to 1,000 a month in insurance premiums then you are wasting your time trying to talk sense to them.
Sorry John but I'm very familiar with individual and group insurance policies and I've never seen one case where the insurance company didn't pay claims that were covered in the policy. Now for the pre-existing condition. I agree something needs to be done to alleviate this problem. It would be difficult to expect any one insurance company to write a policy and cover someone who already had cancer, for example. This has always been a problem for me and I feel for those that aren't able to pay their normal bills and still afford health insurance. I know this can be devastating to an individual or family. I do believe we need to do something about health care in this country, but it shouldn't take thousands of pages to fix the problem and have all kinds of other things in the policy that doesn't have a thing to do with insurance.
You don't get around much, do you.
Sorry to change the subject but.......Wow! You dems should be proud of your spokespeople.
Pelosi: After that comment yesterday, she has now joined the ranks of "psycho talk" on Ed's show.............and on every talk show on this planet. That comment yesterday shows she is absolutely one of the nuttiest dems in Congress.
Now Ed parades this guy...Alan Grayson. He is so rude, crude, and absolutely the most ignorant of any "former" congressman I have seen. Florida voted his butt out in 2010 and he will stay out, I guarantee it. Florida is not stupid. The only good thing about Grayson is that he hates Obama. Other than that...he is a nut, plain and simple.
You know, why don't big Ed ever have anyone on his show to oppose his views. All he does it put moronics like Grayson, his puppett Bernie Sanders, and the others who just say..."Ed, your're right" and thats it. Have some guts Ed and get someone strong on your show to shed a light on your points.
Now Obama has picked Richard Griffin, right, to join the National Labor Relations Board.....and this guy has ties to organized crime it has been reported.
What is Obama doing? Just diggin his own grave for November. Fast and Furious cover up....executive privilege, bypassing Congress and breaking the law, surrounding yourself with shady people, failed policies, the Supreme Court getting ready to shoot down his "signature achievement", Walker winning the recall effort....I can go on and on. Its not looking good for you guys here on this blog.
Man, I am glad Obama is your candidate whomitmay, demElizabeth, larry, and all of rest of you.
But get this......can you imagine, if the tables were turned and all of this was happening to a Republican President....can you imagine the fun time you guys would be having with it.
Enjoy your day. It indeed is a sad one for Democrats for Obama.
Two propagandists admiring each other's lies.
Johnny.... Don't be too hard on them.
sixpick
TheRealChris
Two propagandists admiring each other's lies"
#12.1 - Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:20 PM EDT
Typical response from the left!!!
NO examples, no backup just PURE B.S.
LMAO
You have to be the stupidest SOB in the world. Fast and furious was started by who? The bush administartion AKA operation LINEBACKER. But keep up the ignorant posts, you people making fools of yoursleves is the highlight of our day! Thanks!
Wide Receiver was started by the Bush Administration which was controlled delivery where agents were able to follow the guns and make arrest and get the guns back.
Fast and Furious was uncontrolled deliveries of thousands of guns using straw purchasers such as gun dealers to make the sales. The straw purchasers were not put under surveillance thereby allowing thousands of guns to get into the hands of drug gangs in Mexico.
A lot of people have and will be killed by this action, but they weren't the same. I know since everything else is George Bush's fault it would seem logical to blame this on him as well, but you're uninformed.
Here's an article for you John....
SF Chronicle Story Repeats AP 'Fast & Furious' Misinformation
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/pj-gladnick/2011/10/05/sf-chronicle-story-repeats-ap-fast-furious-misinformation
There are others if you want to look them up.
Tex- looks like he is 2nd stupidest, at best. I think your trump card took the honors...
Rusty my boy the teabaggers (disgusting habit)especially you, should know they hold the undisputed title of stupidest morons in this country. And sixpack, why didn't you just use a story from fake news, it would have been just as credible as this BS you came up with.
Johnny you have made my day. What a post. The good thing is you speak the truth which ED never does.
You 2 wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the a$$. I've heard you make a lot of false claims but not one source or link. Dave, your slanderous remark to Dem E was totally uncalled for. It just shows your mentality and lack of respect for anybody think has a different point of view. Johnny is worse yet. He hasn't post a true statement as long as he's been trolling this blog. And God forbit he ever back anything up with facts, sources or links. Just more slanderous insults. It must be nice to have an empty bag.
You 2 wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the a$$.
Larry
I guess you're sooooo good and soooooo wonderful. Only the truth is important to you. The truth is meaningless, and you know it. You're no different than anyone else, you want what you want ...regardless.... of the truth.
Typical Nancy Pelosi and Democrat Hypocrisy
I guess that is where President Obama has caught it from
Just as the Charlie Rangel "trial" in the House ethics committee goes on hiatus until September, Democrats find another senior member of their House caucus under an ethical cloud: Los Angeles Congresswoman Maxine Waters.
This comes as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is defending one of her signature campaign promises from 2006, when Democrats recaptured the House and Senate for the first time since 1994.
"When I came in, I said we're draining the swamp, and we did," Pelosi said in an interviewed that aired Sunday on ABC's "This Week." "Any personal respect and affection we may have for people makes us sad about the course of events, but we have to uphold a high ethical standard, and none of our personalities is more important than that"
jerry
And you don't? It's ALL about you.
Now here comes Chris with his la la land vision of the U.S. Do any of you people know that what you are wanting is a nanny state. No where and I mean no where in the Constitution does it say we must get free health benefits. Companies are formed to make profits so that they can re-invest those profits and give people jobs. You want to punish good working people for doing good. You call that America. Work hard people and you will succeed. But you may want to fire this President so that you can get a job. Again please quit listening to these cult members like Ed, you will feel much better about yourself and you may even be happy some day.
No, it will be the Republicans in congress that will go. That is who we will be sending out the door.
Time to put dave on ignore for his idiotic, biased, untrue propaganda.
No one is put on ignore on this blog. You lefties shaking in your boots because people in your own party are embarassing you.
With leaders like Ed Schultz, Alan Grayson, Bernie Sanders, Lawrence O'donnell....Rachel Maddow....what a lineup of good respectable, ethical people. NOT!
The left just gets sillier and sillier with every day that passes.
Did you hear Ed today? He already has his we got creamed speech ready when the Supreme Court strikes down part of Obamacare. Also, Ed just admitted on his show that he was a socialist....even a communist, when it comes to that. Boy, you people are getting desperate.
Get it through your thick skulls. This country...this nation...founded under God...does not want your radical, progressive, left wing views to run this nation. You guys pack up and go to China...you like it so much. You make me sick with your whining and name calling. Get on out if you don't like it.
dave...
Preamble - Purpose of the Constitution - "... promote the general welfare ..."
Something every right-wing egotist forgets about... "The GENERAL welfare" covers the health and welfare of ALL of us, not just the wealthy...
What Does The "General Welfare" in the Constitution Mean?
http://universityofcommonsense.org/articles/general-welfare-us-constitution/
I just picked one. There are many that clearly shows David's comment to be uninformed and false.
If the Supreme Court decides to overturn the Affordable Health Care act one thing stays the same: without the Affordable Care Act 50 million Americans lack health insurance. Tens of millions more will remain under-insured. 45,000 uninsured Americans will continue to die from treatable conditions. One million Americans will have to file for bankruptcy because of expensive medical bills. The United States will sink well below 30th in our longevity and infant mortality statistics. We will also be paying the most per capita for crappy 3rd world medicine. American medicine is fine if you can afford it. Who cares about the middle class and the working poor who build this country up in peacetime and pay for and fight the nation's wars?
Rex..... I agree. Something needs to be done about health care in the USA. We need something that involves health care only and not everything under the sun in it that has nothing to do with insurance.
Something is being done but you naive 'intellectuals' are too busy with your heads permanently implanted up your ass to know it.
Cynical Citizen: The British passed the National Health Services act because too many recruits in WW II were rejected or failed out of initial training to go on and serve on the active duty forces. Sure an individual mandate keeps people from living off the system for free when they get sick. I support a mandate, but we also have to remember our national security and national economic competitiveness issues. We live in a 21st century global economy. We must have all Americans covered by health insurance in one manner or another so that our workforce is competitive and our military has strong healthy troops. Also healthy children perform much better in school. So health care is not just about covering everyone, its about investing in our human capital so that we can compete for every job, every high tech start up company, in a ruthlessly competitive global economy of the 21st century. Asia and the BRIC's will show America no mercy if we fail to compete against them. I really don't think many parochial Americans spend much time thinking about the BRIC's and the other Asian-Pacific rim countries and what being in a 21st century global economy really means for America. This is why I write about it like a broken record: its the premier issue of our time and we are mostly ignoring it much to our children's detriment.
"We must have all Americans covered by health insurance in one manner or another so that our workforce is competitive and our military has strong healthy troops. Also healthy children perform much better in school. "
Rex
I propose an anti-skank amendment to the Constitution. How's this sound. If a bimbo that can't afford to house, clothe, and educate her kids gets knocked up she immediately gets sent to the corner of 8th Ave and 42dn St in NYC to earn enough for a mandatory abortion and sterilization procedure.
I'm tough but I'm fair!!!
And I propose a lobotamy for every teabagger (Disgusting habit) but wait, everyone of you were already born with one, that why you vote republican.
John.... I understand your frustration. The feeling is common on both sides, believe me. Didn't you say you were in the Marines?
LOL...BS. I want to hear your frustration if god forbid the Ryan plan ever gets voted in and theirs no medicare and SS for 'ol sixpack when he turns 65. But you'll be the first ones crying about it, correct?
Larry when you lie and distort the truth I will call you out. DEM E lied and wants a socialist nation, I do not want that. If you do fine, stick with them, but history has always proven that social engineering will flat break a counrty. I do not what to speak chinese any time soon. I do not want my government taking my money and spending like there is no tomorrow and then borrowing more from China to spend more. I earn every penny of my money and do not want it spent on social programs that are corrupt and that are Ponzi schemes. Get your head up and actually see what is going on instead of repeating blow hard Ed who spews all the hate he can. Do you take issue with him???
The person who started borrowing from China was Bush, idiot. He's the one who got us into this debt.
Wrong again Dave. You have NO idea what she wants. Just what you THINK she wants. Big differance. Ingore button. BYE
Dave -3254139....How about Oreally, handy and his fellow clowns that you listen to?
MOM.....who is Oreally??
REX........my heart bleeds for you. You must speak for every drug head and drunk who don't and won't work and wants to get healthly on our dime. Man you way out there.
Don't feel alone Chris I just got a letter from my health care insurance saying they are no longer going to cover inhalers for Asthma and Emphysema sufferers
Whom
I wouldn't worry about it. Obama promised you guys that he was going to raise taxes on the rich so you could get free health care. He's hasn't lied to you yet....has he?
CHRIS, Once again you do not know what you are talking about. This is Obama's mess, you and your friends just can not stop talking about G.W.B. It may have stated on his watch but the Obama attack machine is the ones who drove into the ditch. Deep down in your bledding heats everyone know it,you just can not admit it.
Dave, explain in detail how romneys plan is different from bush's, you know, the moron you voted for twice who's eight yrs in office and idiotic policys led to our deficit? And be specific.
That is bleeding hearts..
Dave: Here is an activity for you to do. Go to the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities website. You can do a Google search for it. Go type in the name of the following article "Critics Still Wrong on What's Driving Deficits in Coming Years" by Kathy Ruffling and James R. Horney who wrote in 2010. Read the entire article and notice in large print: "Bush tax cuts and war costs do lasting harm to budget outlook" Read this paragraph two or three times so it soaks into your thick demented skull. Also many GOP policies caused the 2008 financial crisis. The Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission traced much of the problems of the 2008 recession to the repeal of the 1932 Glass Steagall act by the GOP's Graham-Leach-Bliley act of 1999. Sure President Clinton signed this bill into law but this just proves that when it comes to deregulation of large Wall Street investment banks we should never listen to Republicans about economics. Canada kept its investment banks tightly regulated and no Canadian taxpayers had to do any bailouts for their banks.
The bottom line is that Canadians are much smarter than American conservatives who support supply side economics.
Dave's a propagandist. He doesn't care about the facts. He just wants to waste your time.
http://www.alternet.org/economy/149105/how_the_oligarchs_took_over_america/?page=4
The realChris, I put six trolls on ignore today. I have had enough. It was so discouraging to note that Fox, one of the three 24/7 news coverage stations chose not to air Obama's beautiful and informative speech. They spent that time talking hateful about him. It was an important policy speech, too.
It is no wonder the trolls are like they are. They don't get the facts, just Fox spin which they repeat here. If my news station refused to show news I am interested in, which affects my life, I'd be pretty angry and change the channel. It's an outrage and the viewers don't seem to see it!
I think some of these trolls are Republican operatives, working for various Republican politicians.
Beats working for their constituents!
Have a nice day!