Although the Obama administration's health care law remains unpopular, the number of Americans who support it have increased slightly since the Supreme Court upheld it last week, according to a new poll from Reuters/Ipsos.
Overall support for the law increased to 48% from 43% in the days prior to the Supreme Court ruling, the poll released on Sunday found. Opposition ticked downward to 52% from 57%, creating a much tighter ratio between those who support the reform and those who do not.
Support for the law also improved among the critical independent voter segment, jumping nearly 10 percentage points to 38% from 27%. Independents, though, still largely dislike the poll: 62%, according to the Reuters/Ipsos poll.
From Reuters:
"This is a win for Obama. This is his bill. There's not really any doubt in people's minds, that it belongs to him," said Julia Clark, vice president at Ipsos Public Affairs. "It's his baby. It's literally been labeled 'Obamacare' ... which maybe it works in his favor now that there's a little bit of a victory dance going on."
Republican opposition to the law stayed strong, if somewhat weaker than before the high court ruled. Eighty-one percent of Republicans opposed it in the most recent survey, down from 86 percent in the poll conducted June 19-23. In the earlier poll, 14 percent of Republicans supported the healthcare plan, compared to 19 percent in the more recent one.
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Vote NObama 2012!!!!
Vote NO dems 2012!!!
Yeah, vote against your own best interests. Keep the wealthy happy at your expense and with your vote. That's smart.
Old trolls with new names.
Romney/NoHealthCare 2012
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/06/obamacare-supreme-court-regular-americans
1) Insurance companies can no longer impose lifetime coverage limits on your insurance. Never again will you face the risk of getting really sick and then, a few months in, having your insurer tell you, "Sorry, you've 'run out' of coverage." Almost everyone I've met knows someone who had insurance but got really, really sick (or had a kid get really sick) and ran into a lifetime cap.
2) If you don't know someone who has run into a lifetime cap, you probably know someone who has run into an annual cap. The use of these will be sharply limited. (They'll be eliminated entirely in 2014.)
3) Insurers can no longer tell kids with preexisting conditions that they'll insure them "except for" the preexisting condition. That's called preexisting condition exclusion, and it's out the window.
4) A special, temporary program will help adults with preexisting conditions get coverage. It expires in 2014, when the health insurance exchanges—basically big "pools" of businesses and individuals—come on-line. That's when all insurers will have to cover everyone, preexisting condition or not.
5) Insurance companies can't drop you when you get sick, either—this plan means the end of "rescissions."
6) You can stay on your parents' insurance until you're 26.
7) Seniors get $250 towards closing the "doughnut hole" in their prescription drug coverage. Currently, prescription drug coverage ends once you've spent $2,700 on drugs and it doesn't kick in again until you've spent nearly $6,200. James Ridgeway wrote about the problems with the doughnut hole for Mother Jones in the September/October 2008 issue. Eventually, the health care reform bill will close the donut hole entirely. The AARP has more on immediate health care benefits for seniors. Next year (i.e., in nine months), 50 percent of the doughnut hole will be covered.
8) Medicare's preventive benefits now come with a free visit with your primary care doctor every year to plan out your prevention services. And there are no more co-pays for preventative services in Medicare.
9) This is a big one: Small businesses get big tax credits—up to 50 percent of premium costs—for offering health insurance to their workers.
10) Insurers with unusually high administrative costs have to offer rebates to their customers, and every insurance company has to reveal how much it spends on overhead.
UPDATE: Here's one more big benefit we've found out about since the ACA passed:
obamacare is another burden on American companies big and small.
We have to vote obama out of office. he is destroying this country. Memebers of the 'recipient' class will go all out to see him reelected. They love the handouts he is giving.
This is not how America became the richest country in the world! Overtaxing and overregulating companies. Penalizing succesful Americans with higher taxes while a large portion of Americans pay no taxes at all and get a tax refund! The recipent class.
America became wealthy though people working hard and goverment not being an impediment to econmic growth.
Too bad you have all of the facts wrong. Those of us who currently pay for our healthcare will come to a point when we cannot afford it anymore unless their is CHANGE. We are NOT overtaxed and businesses will benefit as well as individuals from the implementation of the ACA. Large corporations get large tax refunds. Why is this OK? President Obama has implemented LESS regulations than President Bush. You watch too much Fox News and spit out their distortions and outright LIES.
A-MEN, djj-951919 They have the facts all distorted and they live in Foxworld, where nobody but the rich deserve a damn thing.
And their toxic talkers keep the lies and the propaganda going so a few at the top will own this country, and the viewers and listeners to the toxic talkers. who never will have a say once the GOP is in power, will continue to help the upper 1%. It is madness. Our country has gone mad.
Their reaction to the AHCA is just what I am talking about. Most will benefit from it, including the Foxworld folks. Yet they are being told how it is a socialist, taxing piece of crap! And when you try to hit them with the facts, they call you a communist or something. IT IS MADNESS!
sullyman, 2112. Please try to get the facts. YOU DON'T have them!
"obamacare is another burden on American companies big and small."
Lies, it will make it more affordable for companies to offer their employees health care.
"We have to vote obama out of office. he is destroying this country. Memebers of the 'recipient' class will go all out to see him reelected. They love the handouts he is giving."
The recipient class? Did you go to college and take a pell grant? That makes you a recipient too. Handouts are only there to make the lives of Americans better for those who can't afford to do it themselves. It doesn't mean that those Americans aren't working hard.
"This is not how America became the richest country in the world! Overtaxing and overregulating companies. Penalizing succesful Americans with higher taxes while a large portion of Americans pay no taxes at all and get a tax refund! The recipent class."
You know back in the early 20th century taxes were much much higher, and it didn't seem to stop American from becoming the richest country in the world. There's a big portion of wealthy American's who don't pay taxes at all, that doesn't help anyone.
"America became wealthy though people working hard and goverment not being an impediment to econmic growth."
Yeah because we all know the recipient class doesn't work hard right? /sarcasm
Get your facts straight, you're probably part of the "recipient" class too and don't even know it.
The righties aren't interested in the facts. Just the Fox Lies talking points. If they wanted facts, there are plenty out there. But they would have to want information first. Something the right just can't handle. Truth and Facts.
There's a big portion of wealthy American's who don't pay taxes at all, that doesn't help anyone.
Cornish
Like everyone else, the rich pay tax on income. This may be a bit over your head but it's quite possible for a millionaire not to have any taxable income. A million dollar CD today pays about $5000 a year in interest......got it? I knew you would!!!
They know what the facts are. That isn't their game.
Here's the health care system they're so proud of:
The World Health Organization's ranking
of the world's health systems.
Republicans do not want anything better in America including health care. They will not admit to any truth, of any good accomplishment gained by Obama, America or Americans. McConnell said again yesterday, "we have the best health care in the world" and his minions believe him only because he has the (R) by his name. All republicans lie, and their minions say "YES SIR" The fact is USA health care ranks 37th in quality and I believe number 2 or 4 (if someone can correct me, please do so) in highest cost. I really feel bad for those low information people who have not a clue they are being screwed by those republicans.
Taxes are the lowest in modern history. 17 billionaries on the 400 list pay no taxes. The biggest profit makers in history often pay no taxes.
The 50% who pay no income taxes (they pay payroll, property, and other taxes) earn less than 26K a year (before taxes), which is down 30% in the past 30 years. You can't squeeze blood out of a turnip!
With the income of the wealthy rising 280% in past 30 yrs and median wage down over 30%, the tax structure and other laws have imposed a huge hidden tax on the working poor, all of which including all new wealth (most from govt technologies like internet, GPS, satellite technology,etc) has gone to the rich: redistribution of wealth, robbing the workers of the fruit of their labor.
You vote a Republican in and YOU'LL be in the "recipient class", as you like to call them, before you know it. Then YOU won't have a safety net, because they will have done away with those on "day one" as Mitt likes to say. He's going to be awfully busy on that day, tearing down every good thing that's happened to this country, so he can give more money to his wealthy friends. Of the rich, by the rich, and for the rich is a Repub's motto.
Nothing interesting here.Bye
Thanks for your contribution.
As more people learn about the provisions in this bill, more will see that it is a positive step in the right direction. If we do nothing, as the GOP continues to suggest, the cost of healthcare would become so prohibitive that many of us could no longer afford coverage. We are at a point in time that we have to take actions Now to fix some of the ails of this country and cannot afford to go back in time.
Exactly, and maybe the GOP should focus on trying to help America and join with the Democrats in improving the bill, instead of all the talk of trying to repeal it.
Do the GOP ever come up with any ideas on their own, or do they just try to repeal everything the Dems & Obama come up with?
You know that eventually the GOP are going to run out of scape goats to keep telling that Reagan welfare lie on and then what are they going to run on their record? If you notice the GOP haven't ran on their record since Ike, they always run against something and pretty soon they will be forced to talk about their record when that happens the GOP will die. The GOP record sucks.
It's a broken record, too.
Tsk, Tsk, Tsk... my aren't we an angry group of people. That's what happens when someone challenges your brainwashed opinions with facts.
Do you really believe obumacare is going to make our healthcare system better? Seriously? Socialized medicne has been a failure where ever it has been enacted.
this is NOT socialized medicine.
this is the repubs response to democrats when they tried to reform health care.
now because President Obama (and chief justice Roberts) made it law, now all of a sudden it is socialism?
how quickly repubs forget that the individual mandate was constitutional before it was unconstitutional.
Sully. The only angry people are you righties. And, I've ask before and never recieved an answer, but here goes. How in the hell can you call it "socialised" health care when it's bought through a private insurance company? I thought you righties wanted everything privatised.
No larry they want everything privatized til obama wants it privatised at which point it becomes anti-colonial-communo-islama-social-black liberational-kenyanism
Just another troll, trying to earn his Rove pennies.
Larry, socialized medicine is when the doctors work for the government and hospitals belong to the government. Such a program was enacted in 1798, with a Congress full of the Founding Fathers (Jeffreson as leader, Adams signed) with zero dissent. Unanimous sociaized medicine with a mandated tax to fund it.
But most of the 35 peer nations with universal programs do not have socialized medicine as it is single payer/private provider (like Medicare or Medicaid). In the US, the VA (which is not top rated) is socialized medicine.
In the UK, there is socialized medicine, alongside private vendors, but most nations go with the single payer/private arrangement.
Costs are 1/2 to 1/3 of US Costs, with all nations having superior health outcomes and truly universal coverage.
"Obamacare" which was designed by the conservative Heritage Foundation, promoted by Gingrich, and adopted by Romney for Mass (in Romney's own words, this is the origin) is not socialized medicine: the insurers are all private and doctors and hospitals are still private.
Socialized medicine works, as the VA now gets top ratings for service, and the UK spends half what we do with universal coverage and better health results.
So does single payer/private medicine, as in most advanced nations.
You have to educate yourself on these programs and stop spreading lies and misconceptions.
This current bill is the plant the private industry wanted; when it was passed in 2010 heathcare stocks ralllied (you gotta buy healthcare, and you gotta buy from us!), and since then, stocks have continued to rally.
This confirms that the structure of the
AFC Act is what the industry wanted and what the conservatives designed.
The good news is can be changed with the ever popular public option(3/4 want his choice ) or simply Medicare for All, which would be single payer/private vendor.....the best system as proved by over 30 peer nations with costs over half that if our program and longer life, fewer infant deaths, less sickness, no workers comp to burden business, and preventive care to bring down costs.
It works. Conservacare (Romney care/Obamacare) needs to be reformed to make it work as it should. So it's a start, tho it's starting from the industry/Republican design...but we can change it.
You would be WRONG Sullenman. Many countries have great healthcare systems that are so-called socialized medicine. The Scandinavian countries for example. Norway's started back in 1912. A lot of nations have single payer, some individual mandate and some have two-tier. WE should have single payer. It would be much simpler.
oh no MJB don't mention evil socialist europe who just a couple years ago the right was saying we should imitate on corporate tax rates.....gosh video tape is great. Remember the more the right uses the communist accusation the more likely it is they are losing the intellectual argument and have no way out of the ridiculous position they've taken.
Obamacare has no individual mandate but it should have. The individual mandate protects society from having to foot 100% of the costs of stupid people and the poor with no insurance. If they can't pay society via the government does. The more people who can't pay, the more we all pay. Thus it makes perfect sense that those who can afford it should buy it. That means less we all pay to government to cover their emergency expenses. Why should someone with the ability to buy insurance have their emergency cared paid for by the people? That's call free riding. That's free loading on the rest of us. So unless you GOP have a better solution or would like to suggest we just let those who can't pay die....an individual mandate makes some sense.
In their quest to be 1000% against the preson of Barack Obama they have now gone to advocating freeloading. Conservatives not so long ago understood the simple concept I just discussed so much for prinicpe eh neo-cons....
You know, you have to wonder how people so stupid, are able to make so much money. It must be the greed factor and their willingness to do ANYTHING to get rich.
Well MJB apparently they don't. Remember when they were attacking John Kerry in...entertainingly....similar ways to what they say today is anti-colonial-islama-communo-social-stalinism..........
or not so long ago when people where discussing tax rates on the rich where republicans said democrats shouldn't want to raise taxes on the rich because most of them were democrats...yeah remember that......lmfao
Norway
1912
Single Payer
New Zealand
1938
Two Tier
Japan
1938
Single Payer
Germany
1941
Insurance Mandate
Belgium
1945
Insurance Mandate
United Kingdom
1948
Single Payer
Kuwait
1950
Single Payer
Sweden
1955
Single Payer
Bahrain
1957
Single Payer
Brunei
1958
Single Payer
Canada
1966
Single Payer
Netherlands
1966
Two-Tier
Austria
1967
Insurance Mandate
United Arab Emirates
1971
Single Payer
Finland
1972
Single Payer
Slovenia
1972
Single Payer
Denmark
1973
Two-Tier
Luxembourg
1973
Insurance Mandate
France
1974
Two-Tier
Australia
1975
Two Tier
Ireland
1977
Two-Tier
Italy
1978
Single Payer
Portugal
1979
Single Payer
Cyprus
1980
Single Payer
Greece
1983
Insurance Mandate
Spain
1986
Single Payer
South Korea
1988
Insurance Mandate
Iceland
1990
Single Payer
Hong Kong
1993
Two-Tier
Singapore
1993
Two-Tier
Switzerland
1994
Insurance Mandate
Israel
1995
Two-Tier
United States
2014?
Insurance Mandate
System Types:
Single Payer: The government provides insurance for all residents (or citizens) and pays all health care expenses except for copays and coinsurance. Providers may be public, private, or a combination of both.
Two-Tier: The government provides or mandates catrastrophic or minimum insurance coverage for all residents (or citizens), while allowing the purchase of additional voluntary insurance or fee-for service care when desired. In Singapore all residents receive a catastrophic policy from the government coupled with a health savings account that they use to pay for routine care. In other countries like Ireland and Israel, the government provides a core policy which the majority of the population supplement with private insurance.
Insurance Mandate: The government mandates that all citizens purchase insurance, whether from private, public, or non-profit insurers. In some cases the insurer list is quite restrictive, while in others a healthy private market for insurance is simply regulated and standardized by the government. In this kind of system insurers are barred from rejecting sick individuals, and individuals are required to purchase insurance..."
No countries, even under conservative leaders, have abandoned single payer systems.
According to T.R. Reid (The Healing of America, 2009):
I lived in the United Kingdom for three years while on active duty. My wife and family were well taken care of by the British National Health Service. My wife had surgery with her tonsils taken out. There were no problems with getting access to surgeons or to a hospital bed. I had many British friends and I know firsthand that many of the things Americans say about the British NHS are simply totally false. The British NHS costs about half of what the U.S. medical system costs but delivers better quality care. How is this so? The reason for this is that all British people can see a family care provider, nurse or doctor, whenever they need to. If you are really sick you can be seen by your doctor that same day in most cases. These family care providers work hard at trying to treat medical conditions up front. Childhood vaccinations, eyes, ears, throat, and common pediatric conditions are immediately taken care of by the family care provider in a clinic setting. This is the key to keeping costs down for the British NHS.
The British do not follow the American example of waiting until the appendix bursts in the Emergency Room because the patient did not have insurance. American doctors and nurses I think would do fine in a British NHS system. Doctors and nurses are usually a selfless lot who practice medicine because they want to help human beings who are their patients. I do not believe that most American doctors or nurses practice medicine to get rich, they truly want to help people who are suffering. The British NHS makes sure the patients appendix gets taken out long before it bursts in most cases. British doctors and nurses are paid a salary and are not paid for how many medical procedures they perform. Consequently, prevention and early treatment are emphasized in the British NHS. This British NHS is in many ways the most cost effective system in the world. No one does a better job of well baby programs, helping mothers with the birthing process, and pediatric care for young babies and toddlers in the entire world. Say what you want about the British NHS. I would much rather have the British NHS all across America than the for profit corporate insurance bandits that are the bane of our life here in America. Long live Britain, because they care about human beings rather than just corporate profits for the American corporate insurance mafia racket.
Not to pick at you story Rex but perhaps your eing in the service maybe helped your claim along....are you sure just because you were on active duty? But the point is none the less understood the evil socialist healthcare sustems in europe aren't cutting off care and people aren't suffering from terrible illnesses untreated.....the death panels aren't lining the streets with old people......
The right loves to say the american healthcare system is the best in the world...well only if you have lots of money. Naturally the right will always say that because wouldn't you know it they are pretty much only focused on...you guessed it, people with lots of money.
Biggest tax increase on middle class in all history!!!!
1% will pay the penalty for not buying insurance, and with the median wage now at 26K, that means the highest penalty would be $650 at median wage, with children or wife, less. This will apply to an estimated 1% of the population.
Seriously, that is not much of a "tax" increase and can be avoided by taking advantage of govt subsidy for those (such as median wage earners) who cannot afford it otherwise. 99% will not pay the tax. Other taxes to help fund the program are targeted on the very rich (those making 10 times the median wage).
The biggest middle class tax increase in our history was under Reagan.
1982 - Ronald Reagan raised taxes with the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act. Republicans who disagreed with him called it the largest tax increase in American history.
1993 - Bill Clinton's Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993. They referred to it as the largest tax increase in American history.
2007 - Just criticizing the budget, Republicans insisted it was going to be the largest tax hike in American history.
2010 - Campaigning to prevent the sunset of the Bush tax cuts, Republicans accused President Obama of pushing the largest tax increase in American history (as if allowing a law to sunset, as designed, amounts to a tax increase)
2012 - Following the Supreme Court's affirmation of the Affordable Care Act, Republicans immediately started lambasting it as the largest tax hike in American history. It isn't. Not even close. It amounts to $695 per year for the average family affected by the mandate. And the Payroll Tax Cut which the Republicans blocked earlier this year would have been about $1500 for the average family." wegoted.com
From Mises.org
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Reagan came into office proposing to cut personal income and business taxes. The Economic Recovery Act was supposed to reduce revenues by $749 billion over five years. But this was quickly reversed with the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982. TEFRA—the largest tax increase in American history—was designed to raise $214.1 billion over five years, and took back many of the business tax savings enacted the year before. It also imposed withholding on interest and dividends, a provision later repealed over the president's objection.
But this was just the beginning. In 1982 Reagan supported a five-cent-per-gallon gasoline tax and higher taxes on the trucking industry. Total increase: $5.5 billion a year. In 1983, on the recommendation of his Spcial Security Commission— chaired by the man he later made Fed chairman, Alan Green-span—Reagan called for, and received, Social Security tax increases of $165 billion over seven years. A year later came Reagan's Deficit Reduction Act to raise $50 billion."
So Reagan raised taxes (ran on cutting taxes, which he did for the rich, fro70% to 28%) by 500 billion, adjusted for inflation, that is about 900 billion.
The penalty for the 1% who won't buy HC insurance will raise about 2 billion a year, or 1/450th of the Reagan tax hikes.
So is that the highest tax hike on the middle class in history or a cynical lie to dupe the ignorant?