Pennsylvania's new voter ID laws will face a challenge Wednesday in the state courts led by civil rights groups. The Justice Department on Monday launched an investigation into the laws, which make it more difficult for 758,000 mostly lower-income residents to get to the polls. The plaintiff in the state case is Viviette Applewhite, a 93-year-old woman whose ID was in her purse when it was recently stolen.
The attorneys defending Pennsylvania's laws admit that there have been no investigations or prosecutions of in-person voter fraud in the state. Furthermore, as guest host Michael Eric Dyson argued on Tuesday's The Ed Show, they do not know of any such investigation or prosecutions in other states.
"If you look at how poll taxes were used, they were used as obstacles to prevent poor voters from being able to participate," said Hilary Shelton, head of the Washington chapter of the NAACP. "Now you're paying a price—a dollar figure—to participate in the electoral process. It is indeed a poll tax."
The voter ID laws in 11 that have been enacted since 2010 are the biggest assault on voter rights since the 1965 Civil Right Act, said commentator E.J. Dionne. "You're talking about the full monty of voter suppression," he said.
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With PA state officials saying there is no fraud, I don't know why any judge wouldn't find in favor of voters. At least I HOPE that's what will happen. And I hope it sets a precedent in case other states start this (like Fla). It's time we got some good news for a change. Now if we can just get everybody out there to take advantage of their civic duty and vote!
Issa din't succeed in holding up Eric Holder so he could finish this investigation. I hope they declare this illegal and everyone in Penn. will not be kept from voting in November. What else will the repugs have in their dirty little bag of tricks. They stink.
The GOP already did their hanging chads in 2000. Now they have other plans. A conspiracy to stop the democrats in 2012, Karl Rove was open about what the ultimate goal is. Going after Acorn was the first in a series of actions the Repubs have taken to undermine the democratic vote. That's because Acorn was so successful at registering black voters. Then they came after the unions because they get out democratic voters. Kill the unions and their ability to impact local and national campaigns. Then they went after AARP, because it opposes privatization of Social Security, supports the Affordable Care Act, and its executives give disproportionately to Democrats. And so on. and on, and on. "We must close union offices, confiscate their money and put their leaders in prison. We must reduce workers' salaries and take away their right to strike." - Adolph Hitler, May 2, 1933The Republicans'ts have conspired with the Koch brothers who have funded efforts to thwart 21 million Americans from voting and Koch dollars helped write and propose voting suppression bills in 38 states. Voter suppression laws passed around the U.S. will put ballot boxes out of reach or millions of Americans eligible to vote, many of whom are African American, Hispanics, low-income poor, physically disabled, students and seniors. Because they understand they have alienated all but the 1% and the corporations they represent.
Wisconsins Gov. Scott Walker is a dupe doing the bidding of the Koch brothers. Koch Industries was the 2nd biggest contributer to Gov. Walkers 2010 campaign. Now he's manipulating your constitutional right to participate in elections by demanding that every voter have a picture ID in order to vote. But he then closed 10 DMV offices in democratic districts where people need go to get their ID's in order to extend hours in republican districts. Just like efforts by Ohio's Gov. Kasich to manipulate early voting, mail-in votes and same day registration. And just like efforts by Gov. Rick Scott in Florida to knock 188,000 citizens off the voter rolls, using invalid DMV purge lists. Paper Please! A scary thing considering the 538vote margin in 2000 Bush/Gore. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. How many brave American soldiers gave their lives fighting fascism in WWII? Overthrew Saddam Hussein in Iraq? And yet why do we allow the Koch Brothers and the Republicans to slowly but methodically turn this country into a fascist state.
So eloquently spoken. All Americans of every walk of life should be outraged by the voter suppression that is going on in this country. Show your out rage by making sure you vote every time and tell others how important it is that they vote. When people say that their vote does not count, here is proof that it does count. We have very rich people in this country and other countries spending millions of dollars trying to make sure you don't vote. These people have money and power to influence the Congress,Senate, Presidents and Judges but you as a citizen have the power of the vote. Your vote counts and millions of people have been killed trying to deliver that message to you. Don't let their life and actions be in vein. VOTE! It is very very IMPORTANT
Fortunately two courts in Wisconsin have placed a permanent injunction on the voter ID law. It now seems highly unlikely that the Supreme Court in Wisconsin will take on the case in time for the November elections so no voter ID will be needed at the polling places.
Good news Molly, thank you
I don't know what the big deal is. I have to present an I.D. probably at least once a week on a lot of different things. This should be no different. The days of dead people, Mickey Mouse and those pretending to be Eric Holder trying to vote has to stop. Why would anyone be against stopping voter fraud.....it is rampid. Yeah, and the hanging chad thing, that was a Democrat thing.......and the Democrat lawyers disavowing every militarty vote they could find where the "I's" werent dotted. Wake up and get your history straight.
What are you talking about?! They've already admitted that there is very, very little voter fraud. The incidents are so small in number as to be negligible. Voter IDs are fine but the state should have to provide them at no cost to the voter and at least 90 days prior to an election. If the state is going to mandate that every voter have an ID, THEY have to provide it.
He is making that age old republican lie that people can just walk in off the street and cast a ballot without any paper work. Except it is an attempt at getting non voters misinformation about how voting works, no one can just walk into a voting poll and vote. You have to register to vote with the Secretary of State so ID laws are not needed because who would vote under someone elses name, what would be the pay off to risk imprisonment and/or fines to vote as someone else. Now here is the interesting part, the state has to prove that voter fraud happens and so far not 1 state has been able to prove it has, they use things like felons voting as proof, but seeing as only 10 states do not allow felons to vote it doesn't apply to all other 40 states, you will see the tea bagged trolls yelling and screaming about voting felons, another attempt to misinform. But the tea bagged trolls have their orders to misinform and make untrue statements about voter fraud as well as misinform about the voting process. It is just another example of how delusional the right is.
Made up stories. Mickey Mouse voting isn't going to change the outcome of an election. Kicking thousands of American citizens of the rolls can. Republicans have invented a solution for an imaginary problem. The new republican mantra is "If you can't win legally, CHEAT!"
Whom...once again you completely misrepresent what people are saying. IN NORTH CAROLINA...you would be correct in that people have to show ID at the time of registering to vote, but on election day, currently no ID of any type is required. Any person can simply walk into any polling place and claim to be any person that is registered at that precinct. As long as they know the person's full legal name and address, the imposter can easily get away with it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5p70YbRiPw&feature=player_embedded
Why would the payoff be? Are you really that stupid that you have to ask that question?
just saying...
Just say'in, show the stats that voter fraud is so rampant that a voter ID law needs to be enacted weather registering or just voting. Show ONE election that was decided by voter fraud. Apparently it wasn't a issue whatsoever in the 2010 elections. Why now? If your ignorant enough to by into the teabagger voting 'fraud' then thats your problem. The rest of us saw it for what it is...total BS. And so does the DOJ. Either put up or STFU.
JIT...
How may cases have to be reported for you to think that it is rampant?
if you are going to try and make up some BS so that your lemmings will think you are smart, at least come up with something that is a little harder to disprove than your effort above. The first Voter ID laws were enacted in 2002 with the passage of the Help America Vote Act. Prior to that, in 1999, the sate of VA tried to pass an ID law but was blocked by Democrats and the NAACP. AZ passed their ID law in 2005.
So either put out accurate information or STFU.
If you are stupid enough to believe the standardized liberal talking points without verifying them for yourself, you only have yourself to blame.. but then again, since you are a progressive liberal, you will find a way to blame someone else for your screwup. Personal responsibility is not something that you have the capability of understanding.
just saying
Enough to warrant the changes in voter laws dummy. Like Penn, that cant produce a single one maybe? Like I said, put up or STFU. I'll be waiting
Better check again on your sources buckeroo, the 2002 'Help america vote act had nothing to do with voter ID's, FOS much stormy? Oh your junior teabaggers wanted it..but it had nothing to do with the law which was concerned with malfunctioning voter machines and such, after all, bush had to hide his election rigging now didnt he. Moron.
Voter identification
HAVA requires any voter who registered by mail and who has not previously voted in a federal election to show current and valid photo identification or a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, government check, paycheck, or other government document that shows the name and address of the voter. Voters who submitted any of these forms of identification during registration are exempt, as are voters entitled to vote by absentee ballot under the Uniformed and Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act.
[edit] Provisional voting
HAVA requires voters identified as ineligible (such as voters not found on the registered list), but who believe themselves to be eligible, to be able to cast a provisional ballot. After the election, the appropriate State or local election entity will determine if the voter was eligible, if so counting the vote and notify the voter of the outcome. Approximately 1.9 million voters nationwide cast provisional ballots in the 2004 election. Of those, approximately 1.2 million—or 64.5%—were counted.[5] Additionally, any time polling hours are extended voters are required to vote using provisional ballots.[6] Further, voters who do not comply with HAVA's voter identification requirements are able to cast a provisional ballot.
JIT...
If you want to get into a name calling match instead of having a discussion, I will be happy to oblige you, but can you at least try to be civil.
Once again, how many cases does it take to warrant a change in the laws? Give me a number. Is 10 cases enough? is 500? is 1000? As soon as anyone produces evidence of the fraud, it would be easy for you to simply say that isn't enough...so tell me...how many is enough?
Was there or was there not a provision in the HAVA that required ID's to be shown by first time voters?
Let me answer that for you...YES, there was. SO, that was the first legislation passed that had an ID requirement in it that I could find information on.
For the sake of argument though, lets say that the HAVA doesn't count, even though it does. Your point...very clearly stated in post 4.5 was that Republicans didn't think there was any fraud prior to 2010. However...AS USUAL...you are wrong again since the first attempt at an ID law was made in VA in 1999.
According to Wikipedia, these are all state who passed ID laws prior to 2010...
2003 - AL, CO , MT, ND, SD
2005 - IN, NM, WA. Also, GA tightened an existing law to require a photo ID
2006 - OH
Also, notice that these were passed while Bush was president. That will preclude any argument that they were done because an African American was in office. So, once again, you are wrong.
just saying...
And once again you CANNOT come up with ANY figures on how voter fraud anywhere justifies voter suppression ID laws, NOT ONE, and pulling numbers out your ass sure as heck doesnt count...lol. Let me give you a clue about how these voter ID laws are supposed to work, on second thought, just look up what your brother teabagger politician in Penn was bragging about, let me refresh your memory. 'Voter ID laws that will guarantee a win for romney in Penn this november, DONE'! One last thing, seeing how there are no facts you can come up with to substantiate voter suppression laws, do you think it's worth the millions of dollars it takes to initiate it? Total waste of money. So much for CONservatism 'eh stormy? ...Just say'in
'Bush was president for 8 years... who's the moron?'......You shouldn't leave yourself wide open like that rufus...LOL... The answer is...YOU Rufus, you voted for him twice, did you not?...Now tell the truth, feeling like a dumbass? you should......Now head on back to the 'ol barn, them goats need some more lov'in.
How come whenever you ask a Democrat to define the criteria that they want in order to have discussion they can't do it? It was a simple question...How many cases does it take in order for the law to be warranted? Its like asking a Democrat...what is fair when it comes to paying taxes? They never answer it. The reason why is because that way, whatever it is that you give them to support your side, they can always say no, no...it should be more. How childish.
By the way JIT, I noticed that you weren't man enough to admit that you were wrong regarding the fact that none of the ID laws were passed before 2010 or to refute the fact that the laws are being passed simply because there is an African American in the president's office. It must really suck to be you and be wrong so often...
I don;t know if you are a moron or not, but it is obvious that you aren't honest...
just saying...
There are severe laws in place to punish you if you do commit voter fraud. You could be fined thousands of dollars and even sent to jail for several years. There is no compelling reason to stand in line for maybe an hour just to cast one vote when you could face prison time. Voter fraud defies common sense. There have been numerous investigations over the years into voter fraud and very few cases have actually turned up.
Furthermore, the people at my polling place know who I am and there is no way someone would try to impersonate me just to place one vote and I certainly couldn't pretend to be someone else! The whole idea of voter fraud is just an excuse for passing laws which result in voter suppression.
Molly...there are severe laws in place which punish people for a wide variety of acts, but that does not prevent people from committing murder, rape, burglary, robbery and other crimes if they think they can easily get away with it.
The greatest source of power and money in this country is derived from politics and elections.
just saying...
@Storm #5.1
You are correct when you said:
An important point is that there were severe laws in place, because there was ample evidence that the crimes were occurring.
Proponents of Voter ID laws have no ample evidence that voter fraud has occurred - in spite of massive effort to find some.
I don't necessarily disagree with your statement:
But for this statement to have any meaning it needs to be followed by "Therefore we need to ..."
And then fill in the rest.
I would say:
"Therefore we need to protect politics and elections from being unduly influenced by the people who already have power and money. And we need to make sure that all citizens - regardless of their power and money - are able to - and actually do - VOTE.""
Maphi...
I agree with you that all citizens should be encouraged to vote...all LEGAL citizens. I don;t care whether someone votes Republican, Democrat, Libertarian or Independent as long as they vote.
what constitutes ample evidence?
http://articles.philly.com/2012-07-19/news/32731301_1_voter-fraud-voter-id-law-voters-cast-ballots
http://capitolcommentary.com/2012/04/27/virginia-democrats-confronted-with-examples-of-voter-fraud-seem-confused/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5p70YbRiPw&feature=player_embedded
just saying....
storm,
the implication here from the repubs, as i see it, is that President Obama won the election because of "voter fraud", at least that is the justification they are using for the voter ID law. that sounds much better than actually saying that they don't want as many people to vote.
bill hemmer said on fox news that voter ID laws benefit republicans, because the electorate is smaller. i don't like to quote bill hemmer, but i use this as just another example of repubs who are saying that the voter ID laws benefit repubs.
do you believe that President Obama won the presidency because of voter fraud?
do you believe a gun license should hold precadent over a student I.D at the polls?
in repub led states DMV offices were closed in "democratic" districts, making it difficult for voters to get the necessary ID to vote, having to drive hundreds of miles in some cases. also, we have heard stories of the elderly who do not have a birth certificate, and who have voted for years, who will now not be able to vote.
many will be able to get an ID, but many will not.
why do repubs have to do this in such a hurry, before the election? i am questioning that.
if repub voters were affected to the degree that democratic voters are affected with the new ID laws, i'm sure you would question it, too.
Suzette...
Thank you for trying to have a civil discourse on this matter. We might have a difference of opinion, but we should be able to discuss this as adults.
I think that your read into the fact that Republicans think that Obama won by voter fraud is stretching it quite a bit. I personally do not believe that at all. I believe he won the election fair and square because a majority of Americans voted for him and he was able to win the electoral college votes.
I don;t confirm or deny that a smaller electorate base benefits the Republicans because I don't know. I think that can vary from state to state.
I am not in favor of EITHER side using the power they have to protect their own party. That would include EITHER side gerrymandering voting districts to favor one party over the other. that would include selective enforcement of the voter ID laws by EITHER side. That would include situations like you described by EITHER side.
You ask why are Republicans in a hurry, yet this discussion has been going on for a couple of years at least. Since the presidential election is coming up, it has to be done in a hurry if it is going to be done.
From what I have read, there are rules in place in every state for voters to be able to cast provisional ballots to protect the rights of every person who wants to vote. If they can not produce an ID, then they can cast a provisional ballot and the matter can be straightened out later on.
Should a gun license (with photo) hold precedent over a student ID...that depends on the rules set up by the state involved. What did the person have to show when they registered to vote? I have no problem with a student ID being used as an acceptable form of ID, nor do I have a problem with a gun license as long as they both are current and have photos on them.
I don't look at this as a Republican vs Democrat issue like you seem to. I look at it as an American issue. I want every LEGAL citizen in this country to vote and for the leaders of this country to be elected in a process that allows every single LEGAL citizen to express their view through their vote. However, I do not want the future of our country determined by EITHER party and their ability to manipulate the system.
IMHO, on this matter, the safest way to do that is for every LEGAL citizen to show an ID when the vote. In my precinct, I have watched hundreds of people walk in and out over the years and never be asked anything except what is their name and address which is information that anyone can have access to. the next best alternative, is to have some form of electronic check in...similar to using an ATM ...and require the person to enter in a PIN of some sort that authorizes that person to vote.
just saying...
Just lying some more capt re reg. Funny how the GOP weren't calling for voter ID's in 2010 or before. In fact voter ID didn't even start until September of 2011, so again less then a year capt re reg of this nonsense. Funny how you just keep insisting that scores of illegal votes were proven except none have been proven the few that do is because of human errors. So explain to us how you want a civil discussion when all you do is repeat lies and disregard anything that shows you as either misinformed or dishonest when you insist that voter fraud needs to be addressed when you can't prove voter fraud happens.
@Stormguy53,
You have never needed to show ID in California to vote or register (click here).
There is no evidence that a non-citizen has ever tried to vote despite the fact that California has the highest immigrant population in the country AND you can register to vote at the poling place. Immigrants know they will be deported if they try that, so immigrants don't even try.
Voter ID laws make the problems worse because voter ID laws can allow felons to vote.
The problem California actually does have is that felons try to vote every time a proposition gets onto the ballot to legalize drugs because felons that are not supposed to vote actually do have government issued ID.
I think I'm in love with William Tenny;
http://pwtenny.newsvine.com/_news/2012/07/12/12707451-scott-brown-r-ma-introduces-bill-that-could-allow-fox-news-to-be-banned-by-the-government-rush-limbaugh-to-be-imprisoned
If this is only true!
storm,
i'm not trying to convince you of anything.
in the fall (around sept) of 2011, a wisconsin worker was fired for reminding fellow workers that photo ID's required for voting are FREE under wisconsin law.
Chris Larson said that he had been fired and escorted out of his workplace (dept. of safety and professional services which is under secretary dave ross).
he emailed his co-workers after hearing news stories that the wisconsin dept. of motor vehicles was hiding the fact that voter ID's are free.
an internal memo was leaked from a top "dept. of transportation" (repub?) offical who told service center workers to "refrain from offering the free version ID to those WHO DO NOT ASK FOR IT.
you would then be charged $28.00 for the privilege of voting.
you think that's O.K...
Suzette...
Did I say anywhere that I thought you were trying to convince me of anything?
If what you said is true, then it is not right and I don;t think it is ok. Likewise, I don;t think it is ok for you to make an inference regarding your guess that the top dept. of transportation official was a Republican without any evidence to back it up.
Unlike most people on this site, I am open to criticizing BOTH sides when they make mistakes.
just saying..
Whom...
As usual, I have to ask you to prove that anything I said was a lie. It has happened so many times that I have lost count and you have yet to catch me in a lie. Go ahead and try again...
just saying...
Just another example of the paranoid psyche of the far right conservative collective, and their sledge hammer approach to everything. How's that for a take?
It will be struck down as unConstitutional because it is. They'll win the lawsuit and the Republicans in PA will cry about it. I can't wait to vote them all out in November.
I don't see what the big deal is. It's just a photo ID, no need for everyone to get their panties in a wad. If a person doesn't have a photo ID now, there is plenty of time to go and get one before voting starts.
Besides, you're almost required to have a photo ID on you at all times. I have to show an ID at least once a week to someone whether it's for a purchase with my credit card, buying beer, going to the airport, getting pulled over by the police etc...
If someone has to PAY for an ID just to be able to vote, that is like a poll tax, and poll taxes are illegal. Elderly people that don't drive have no need for a license. So if they have to get someone to take them to get an ID, which costs money, it would be a poll tax. Besides that, in some districts, where Republicans are in charge, they have drastically curtailed the hours DL bureaus are open. They are doing everything they can to stop Democratic voters because they got trounced in 2008 and they are bound and determined not to let it happen again, even if they have to cheat.
Just get an I.D. End of problem.
No, YOU and people like you, are the problem.
Sherman Hensley, "George Jefferson", an American Icon, died Tuesday, July 24, 2012 of apparently natural causes. May God Be Pleased With Him.
CORRECTION:
Sherman Hemsley.
We all learned lessons from Sherman Hemsley's character, George. Oh George, as Wheezy would say.
I can understand that not everyone has a drivers license but how is in today's world you that people still don't have state issued photo ids? They are needed for almost everything now, certainly for cashing checks at least.
many older ppl and the poor don't have checking accounts, and who do they usually vote for? Thats why the teabaggers targeted them. Getting a state voter ID can cost as much as $50 which is essentially a poll tax, which is of course unconstitutional, but hey, the 'baggers only pull the constitution out there asses when it benefits them.
Funny how they keep insisting that they need ID's in order to get thru life yet ignore they are just proving that they are so dishonest no one takes their word on anything including who they are so they have to prove they are who they are with ID's. Gee I don't know about anyone else but if I had to prove who I was to do day to day stuff then I would do some serious checking on why no one believes me or trusts me. Just another example how they don't want to conform to the world around them they want the world to conform to themselves.
Here in Florida, this is what you need to get an ID card or driver's license:
Birth certificate - Costs $10 (if you were born in Florida - otherwise, you have to get it from the state where you were born - prices vary and it can take a few weeks to get it) and you need ID (a passport would work - have to apply in person and not every city has a passport office - cost is about $70 and can take up to 6 weeks).
Social security card - You need your birth certificate and ID (like a passport).
2 proofs of residential address, like a utility or credit bill, or a bank statement. Not everyone has these. In fact, not everyone has a residential address.
If your name has changed, you need certified copies of all the documents related to the name change (marriage licenses, divorce decrees, etc.). I've been married twice, so it cost me about $60 to get the certified copies I needed to renew my license a couple of years ago.
So, if you do not already have an ID card or driver's license, it would cost you at least $80 for the documents needed to get one (birth certificate and passport) - more if your name has changed at any point. Plus, don't forget about the 2 proofs of residential address. Hopefully, you're not homeless.
So, while it may seem simple to you, David, it isn't always so simple. And that's why these laws could be considered poll taxes.
This is trying to gain an uneven playing field. Stop trying to make excuses for cheating...
You Go DOJ = You GO - Stand Up For OUR Constitutional Rights - "Most" of America Is With You !!!
Mr. Holder Is a Good Man - A Good American !!!
STOP This MOB From Over-running OUR Country !!!!
Why don't you just come back with "double dog dare you" or with your "tongue sticking out" You seem to have your own little mission dad.
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Did anyone read this crap. The government set the whole thing up! Where do they find these quacks? Mind control experiments and weapons supplied by the military. Are you on acid or something??!!!
Crackhead Awards, Felons are allowed to vote in California as long as they are not on parole.
These state lawsuits are fine but what has me concerned about Pennsylvania is the lack of a federal lawsuit from the Department of Justice. The Pennsylvania voter ID law is clearly a modern form of a poll tax. It is also a solution in search of a problem. Where is the Department of Justice on this outrageous violation of the 1965 Voter's Rights act? We need a federal lawsuit taking on all of these voter ID laws launched immediately. First the lawsuit should seek an injunction against implementation of these voter ID laws. Secondly, the lawsuit striking at their clear unconstitutionality needs to get these laws struck down all across America. Ag Holder has taken some actions against states with tough voter ID laws but much more DOJ action in federal court must be aggressively pursued.
@Rex
My understanding is that in some states that had voter rights violations in the past are subject to Federal oversight.
Pennsylvania is not one of those states. So actions need to be taken initially within the state - not DOJ.
If the DOJ decides the law is in violation of minority rights it can intervene. Simply because minority rights are protected by federal law.
@Rex,
http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/story/19039429/state-worker-accused-of-drivers-license-social-security-fraud
We have our own fraud going on right here in our state. The Left says there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud, but they fight all attempts decrease the amount of fraud that occurs. Voter ID will decrease the amount of fraud that occurs. Based on what was uncovered this last week here in Minnesota, I believe that we would not have a Senator Franken if we had voter ID in this state. With the new evidence of all the fake driver's licenses in this state and an employee of the Secretary of States Office using her fake driver's license to vote in 2004 and 2008, I'm not so sure we'd have Governor Dayton either.
By the way, did you know that employee's job was to authenticate documents?
This just in Senate voted to END THE BUSH TAX CUTS FOR THE TOP 2% Now on the the Congress!
Why not vote to end them, period. If they were wrong for the top 2%, weren't they wrong for everyone?
Just another example of how the GOP is attempting to limit the rights of individuals which threatens our democracy. We must continue to raise our voices against the tyranny by the far right wing libertarians and ALEC, which drafts these extreme laws.
BULL @!$%# TO ALL YOU MORONS- in this day and age requiring a photo ID is racial? About 10 years ago I went to vote in NY and was told i already voted, I showed my ID filled out some paperwork and nothing came of it. Sorry but the fact that this is now being made a racial issue is SIMPLY a joke. Many buildings now require photo ID in order to gain access, airplanes, renting cars, cashing checks, and on and on. But the right to vote does not require it? That is rubbish, and it is well understood some cannot afford to get a government issued ID it will furnished free of charge- those living in rural areas or do not have the means to make it down to the office to get the ID issued I am sure will be accounted for. And if they cannot afford to get to the state office for the issuance of ID then how will they be able to get to the ballot box to vote. Utter nonsense, I am not aware of the details of the purging laws being pushed through but as for needing a photo ID to vote I am 100% for it and the argument is simply BS-
@Yoma Ma
BULL @!$%# back.
You are sure this will be "accounted for" - like there is an all-out effort to help all eligible voters get the IDs? What if there is no such effort?
To be clear - I am in favor of every US citizen having a Photo ID. I think it is important that all citizens be able to demonstrate that they are citizens so that the can fully access all of the benefits, privileges - and yes responsibilities - of citizenship. Only then can showing a Photo ID be required.
Petitions/ End Bush Tax Cuts and a few other good ones!
http://action.ourfuture.org/p/dia/action/public/
We are taxed enough!! It's the Politicians, not statesman, in Washington that spend our money in grossly negligent manner. This includes Democrats and Republicans.
@xxx ooo,
Show some real courage and call for the end of the Bush Tax Cuts for everyone. It's real easy to raise someone elses taxes. It's a lot harder to raise your own.