Mitt Romney's new welfare ad incorrectly claims that Obama is breaking with Clinton's welfare reform philosophy. According to MSNBC contributor Jonathan Alter, it's all part of an attempt to distance Obama from the former president.
"He's trying to drive a wedge between Clinton and Obama, to say to a certain kind of voter who liked Clinton that Clinton wasn't the type of liberal that Obama is," Alter said. The problem for Romney, he suggested, is that there's no difference between Clinton and Obama on this issue. "[The administration is] not doing anything to weaken the work requirement, much less gut welfare requirement."
It is not the first time Romney has set up Clinton as the kind of Democratic president he likes, one far less extreme than Obama. A Romney ad criticizes Obama for not having visited Israel, in contrast to Clinton. The problem was that George W. Bush didn't visit Israel in his first term, either.
Additionally, in May, Romney suggested that Obama has created more government programs than Clinton did, and is more fond of government generally. In fact, government spending has plummeted during the Obama administration.



This may be Romney's biggest lie so far. I am glad he got called out on it for once. Does this freak have nothing to offer but big and bigger lies about the president? Is that his "plan" for the economy?
Will this create jobs? I can't believe the GOP being so stupid as to back this creep. I hate to think Americans are stupid enough to vote for him.
robMe ---- What a Deeeek -- he is Soooo "Desperate" - yet he Absolutely does NOT Need the Money for being POTUS --- Hell- He Scoffed at making "a Mere" $375,000 per year - just to Jack his Jaws - So Just WHY Would this GOMER want to Earn "a Mere" $450,000 to be the POTUS ?? When After-All he {STILL}SUCKS in $20 Million Per Year From B.C --- Ah But Of Course That IS "Mere Pocket Change" As Well !!?? God - Help AMERICA If This Goofball Should become POTUS !!
robMe DRIVE a Wedge ?????? He Cant Even Drive His Family Dog Properly !!!! Ha Ha Haaaaa
Romney lied, thats not news anymore.
the willard would make any kind of claim that he thinks would be to his advantage. This one will not work with anyone but the wing nut fringe.
all mittens can do is tell lies and untruths. he has NO plan of his own except to line his and his rich "friends" pockets with more money--hate to tell them this but they cannot take it with them (perhaps they should look at the parable of the rich man in the Bible). mittens is desparate. he is not liked, is totally out of touch, behaves like a robot or puppet with his strings being pulled by his special interests, doesn't worry about the poor, wants to destroy planned parenthood, thinks ryans "plan" is marvelous, etc etc. mittens is clueless! he is still refusing to release his tax returns--just what is he hiding???
I think he's hiding a felony. I think Reid nailed it.
If you can lie like Mitt does, you can cheat. If you can cheat, you can steal. As Plato said so well, "All virtue is one."
If mitt were anything but a political candidate there would be grounds for a class action lawsuit for false advertising.
Unfortunately there's no one monitoring truth in advertising when it comes to political ads.
forehey, There should be a monitor! I wish they'd use Sally and Tyler! Those two would set them straight in a hurry! LOL
There doesn't appear to be any love lost between Obama and Bill to begin with. Sort of like opposite ends of the spectrum in the Democrat Party.
He has to fight fire with fire thats just the way it is. Everybody knows Reid is liying about Romney not paying taxes the past 10 years ( weve seen his 2010 taxes he paid 3 million). When Obama lies as much as he does in his ads Mitts has no choice . I saw an add the other day that said Romney didnt pay as much taxes as the middle class. From the 2010 taxes he showed he paid 3 million (14.9%) in capital gains. Nobody paid more than 14.9% in capital gains. Romney didnt work so its a lie to compare his capital gains to someones earned income.
Simple, show 8 to 10 yrs of taxes and prove Harry wrong then. It would be the smart political move, correct? The problem with that solution is Mutt is terrified to show the rest because HE PAID NO TAXES, which does one thing, proves Harry right. Release your taxes Mutt. If you dare.
It cant possibly be the last ten years then because we know in 2010 he paid 3 million. So Harry is liying unless hes going way back to whn Mitt was younger.
Just as a curious question- Obama had a hard time filling his cabinent because they had been tax cheats. Why is he all of a sudden concerned? Does it jusst depend which side you're on to whether it is acceptable or not?
What about 2001 thru 2011 Rolla? Whats Mutt trying to hide?
Rusty, where those ppl running for president? Think hard now. Like I said before, ppl will forgive a tax cheat, but a multi millionaire not paying his taxes and running for president? You figure it out.
Yep, that would be a problem. When you figure it out as to who isn't paying taxes, come back on and tell us. Once more, if Obama and Reid know Romney is breaking the law, isn't it their duty to see charges filed? Leads one to believe Obama is talking out his butt on this issue.
In 2010 he paid 3 million so we know it wasnt 2001 through 2011.
GOP, and a few DEM's just can't help themselves. What else do they want people to do, eat dirt, eat the rich peoples scraps they throw away, or how about being the help to watch their kids, scrub their floors for a piece of bread. Do these people have any shame of playing the race card. I'm tired of these people thinking this is cool to blame poor black and brown people not having enough support to feed or clothe the families that want just as much as the powerful Richie Rich, including people like Mitt Romney. President Barack Obama, is not to blame for this country mistakes over decades of politics and policies that is making it harder for black and brown and some whites too to make it. If the politicians and corperations wasn't so "Greedy", and was willing to make laws fair for all, just maybe we would be a better USA. Those who say they are Patriot's are fools, cause they're not. They just have a cold bloodless heart filling the water with their poison to having to beg. For those of you who want to give your vote away for pure reasons of your hatred of a "Black Man as President", do so at your own expense not other's who can't afford to be or have a life of successful means. But when you do come to realize you made the wrong choice and standing in the line of becoming a welfare queen or king, blame yourself for that simple reason than letting the "greedy people cloud your minds of lies they promise they will do, but won't. The real truth of what "We The People" means and have in common is that being an American doesn't say being "Greedy" too! We grow differently, but we our one standing together to lead this country.
One Can Only DREAM ======== And Then -Turn around and Face REALITY -hey !!!!!!!!
Lady...the only person playing the race card here is you. There is no mention of black, brown or any other color. YOU are assuming because he is talking about welfare that he is talking about a racial matter. People of all colors, including white, are on welfare.
You really need to get past this race thing...the rest of us have...
just saying...
Just lying again you mean capt re reg, whenever a republican talks about welfare they are talking about blacks. We broke that code you righties use to hide behind a long long time ago. You think you are being cleaver because in your little minds you believe that as long as you don't say ni***r then it is nothing racial in your bull@!$%# about your hating welfare but the only one you are fooling is you.
Whom, that is despicable and a lie and further proof that your head is so far up your own buttocks.
Whenever anybody criticizes the Barry they are a rascist and less you forget he is 1/2 white so the arguement about him being black holds no water or in your case kool aid.
Welfare needs to be reformed and the first change should be that it no longer penalize a family including a Mother & father for staying together the way it is run now the family unit is not eligible and that is just wrong.
Oh and it was the Democrats that created that maginificent requirement which leads to break up of family and creates a chain of dependence for the children born with no Father other than than Uncle Sam to take care of them...
Right except the only people who have their heads firmly wedged up their 4th point of contact are tea bagged republicans who are seeking the golden hand Ronnie the racist Reagan lied to them about with his trickle down fairy tale. What you actually believe that we can't see you tea bagged republicans as the racist slime you are. Get real, whenever a GOP politician talks about welfare everyone knows who they are talking about, go lie to yourself but we already broke that racist code the right hides behind like the true cowards they are.
gotoleft banned. multiple account of banned user righty-3283911.
The one good thing about america is if you dont like it your free to go any where in the world you want.
If he's trying to drive a wedge between Obama and Clinton, it's not going to work. As a matter of fact, Clinton is going out to explain just how Romney's ad is a lie and set the record straight. And I hope he calls him out for the liar he is in no uncertain terms.
This is what bothers me. Whenever Welfare is talked about it is always the dog whistle that African Americans need to get off of Welfare. In other words, it is OK the White population receive Welfare and studies show that are more White Americans on Welfare than any other race but as usual when the dog whistle is blown it is because those lazy Black Americans need to stop receiving money I worked so hard for and go to work. So my thoughts are there are no lazy White Americans who need to stop receiving the money I worked so hard for and go to work????????????? Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich blow that dog whistle and now good old then and now Romney is blowing the "need to get off of welfare" whistle. The difference with Romney he is not too stupid. He does not single out color but the in between the lines meaning is there. Mr. Romney just go ahead and be like Santorum and Gingrich just say Black Americans need to get off of welfare. I have never been on welfare. My husband and I worked and we always gave our family the best we could afford and IT DID NOT INCLUDE WELFARE.
This will backfire on Romneyhood. Bill Clinton will get mad and then look out. He will not hold back as he doesn't have to anymore...
Romney lies as easily as you and I drink water. He is a habitual liar and yet the repubs back him...A sad lot they are....
Clinton already made a statement, robmehood lied.
whomitmay - I think Clinton's statement was just the tip of the iceberg...I have a feeling robmehood (I like that) ticked Bill off and he won't stop with one statement..
ifor1, No, Clinton won't stop once he's angry, and he is angry. Go Bill!
And yet the repubs back him? That's a requirement!
Chris if politicians told the tea bagged republican followers the truth their heads would explode.
Bill always hated Barry.
I've read the directive, it takes out the work requirement.
The Obama administration issued a new directive stating that the traditional TANF work requirements can be waived or overridden by a legal device called the section 1115 waiver authority under the Social Security law (42 U.S.C. 1315). Facts are facts.
Guess you left out the part where he lets STATES decide how they want to hand it. Just like the teabaggers wanted..FOS much?
And the robmehoods merry band of nit wits pop off with more of their merry nonsense.
That's all they ever say is nonsense......
IFor1, They get that BS and nonsense from the most unfair and unbalanced station in the country. They believe it!
They must want to believe it. You cannot convince them they're being lied to.
Sadly India you are so right... I have relatives that believe this no matter what you say or what you show them to prove their thinking is wrong...
Me, too. It's so troubling.
Interesting video there on the Ed Show, the Ed show is in absolute damage control as usual.
Oh boy someone learned a new term to bad for him that robmehood has been in damage control mode every since he entered the race to the white house.
Am I the only one that looks at the whole picture? Aren't aren't people on wellfare voting...why then would they vote for Romney? Logic tells me, if I would be on wellfare I would vote for the candidate that promisses me to be on it without work...which, according to this ad is POTUS.
Which is why the GOP have been pushing the voter ID nonsense, like most poll taxes it disenfranchises the poor by making it impossible for them to afford to vote, another thing the sates pushing voter ID did was close down Secretary of State offices that the poor can get to easily thus making it harder for them to get the ID's they need to vote with.
You just touched on it, it is about creating a permanent underclass that will be a quarateed voting block. Great Britain is a perfect example, they have an accepted, established permanent underclass of people, but in their case, they are given homes and a guranteed check every month. This was and is the cornerstone of the Labor Party in England. Actually, they have gone to the next level, it is part of the fabric of the their society with homes, monetary compensation and no worries whatsover of being removed from the system.
Anlass, Wake the hell up: Nobody wants to be on welfare and YES they do have to work.
You can't make enough on welfare to live a normal life, ditto for food stamps. It is not enough. Why do you never complain about welfare to the rich and the profitable corporations? You delude yourself if you believe you see the "whole picture", lady! You see what you want to see.
I'm guessing racism, kiddo.
That it is India its always been their whole argument since Reagan first made up the welfare queen story about a woman that never existed, it was a lie created to drive a wedge between the races, it only worked on those who were stupid.
You think I am a racist...that's funny. If you think only you can call names...think again. My vocabulary is extensive. What I said is not oppressive to the wellfare class...it's actually giving them the benefit of the doubt. Humans are opportunistic creatures! From what I hear, with generation upon generations on wellfare, not everyone does want to work.
My question, however, remains...why would Romney shoot himself in the foot like that? Don't you think this man is just gallactically stupid?
Anlass, Are you actually asking me if I think Romney is stupid?
Oh, gosh......um.....YEAH!! I think he's immoral AND stupid. And those are two of the nicer things I believe about him!
Racism can be unconscious. I wasn't really referring to you, but the GOP as a whole is racist. Have you heard of the fight they put up when Johnson tried to pass the civil rights bill? He did pass it, but no GOP wanted it. Go on the internet and check that mess out. It was 1964, I believe.
And "what you hear" is totally wrong. Maybe you should quit repeating "what you hear" and get a few facts. At this time, it's mostly people working low paying jobs that recieve assitance of any kind. Not the "lazy liberals" righties like to blame. And with the greedy corporations, it'd going to get worse. But I'm still waiting for all those bitching about "welfare" to step up and say anything against give corporate welfare. More money spent there than on "public assistance". why should you care about helpng someone by "giving" them $230.00/mo and say nothing about the $4billion going to the oil companies? And that's just a small piece of the corporate welfare.
You say you are intelligent but you are putting your thinking skills into neat little boxes that cause you to believe there were generations of people on welfare. That alone tells us that you are not looking outside of your boxes. Here is a clue, the welfare Reagan was ranting about didn't exist until 1972, righties like to claim that it goes back to LBJ and the FS project but it only provided food for the poor, before LBJ's food stamp program the government had a food voucher that allowed poor to buy $35 a month of food. It was under Nixon that the housing projects started as well as welfare covering peoples basic needs, no one was making enough to live the good life Reagan whined about. So tell me how a program started in 1972 created generations of welfare queens by 1979. The reason Nixon created that welfare program was because families could no longer afford poor relatives and when it came to the disabled families were using state hospitals as a dumping ground for disabled that became a burden on the family, welfare and SSI are cheaper then putting disabled into state hospitals.
Welfare to work is still in effect. Therefore, you have to work to get welfare.
One thing about the liberals on the ed show blog, if someone disagrees with you people, you all pull out the hate cards.
So much hatred towards your fellow man.
Well stop being a hate filled bigot then you won't get called on your bigotry. Typical tea bagged republican, loves to play the victim card. You got a lot of nerve talking about your fellow man while trying to shove them off a cliff hoping you will get their share.
8.3% unemployment for over 41 months,
over 41 million people on food stamps, cost to the tax payer $71 billion dollars.
Over 12 million Americans out of work.
Obama has add over $5 trillion to the debt, the most of any president in history.
Obama care killing job growth.
Obama continues to attack the rich and American companies.
There are fewer people working today than when obama took office.
There are fewer companies today than when obama took office.
There are fewer banks today than when obama took office.
There are fewer home owners today than when obama took office.
Yet obama & the democrats keep telling us they have added jobs & growth!!!!
Jan 2009 7.6% unemployment rate, today 8.3% that is not growth nor adding jobs.
Seriously? Are you selectively reading the posts here? Scroll up and read again. Perhaps you should take a look at Unreal and The Righty. Incidentally, they are starting the "hate threads."
People see what they want to see. Conservatives have been hating for so many years on Fox and via Limbaugh and the 60 + radio talk show hosts and 30+ conservative periodicals while expecting all liberals to NEVER fight back. In fact every time liberals have fought back in the past they have been attacked viciously. Like the Dixie Chicks, Michael Moore or even Dan Rather to name a few who lost their livelihoods for extended periods of times as well as being physically attacked had their lives and their families lives threatened and property destroyed. Now finally progressives are fighting back and you don't like it. Too bad.
At least none of you conservatives are being physically attacked or killed like the multiple examples I could give you of right wing violence over the last few decades.
Yeah, Ho, unlike the love-fest you keep bringing us.
Still spamming that nonsense huh cow man. Get real meaningless bull@!$%# that says whatever you want it to say. Then there is reality, private sector jobs have seen an increase during that same time period the problem is government jobs decreased which will keep the unemployed numbers up, but you seem to not understand that your whines about smaller government is what is causing the stalemate on the unemployment numbers.
Ho, you're not a fellow anything.
And since you keep posting the same lie over and over, I will keep posting the same fact:
Obama spending binge never happened
Rex Nutting
Commentary: Government outlays rising at slowest pace since 1950s
May 22, 2012|Rex Nutting, MarketWatch
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Of all the falsehoods told about President Barack Obama, the biggest whopper is the one about his reckless spending spree.
As would-be president Mitt Romney tells it: “I will lead us out of this debt and spending inferno.”
Almost everyone believes that Obama has presided over a massive increase in federal spending, an “inferno” of spending that threatens our jobs, our businesses and our children’s future. Even Democrats seem to think it’s true.
But it didn’t happen. Although there was a big stimulus bill under Obama, federal spending is rising at the slowest pace since Dwight Eisenhower brought the Korean War to an end in the 1950s.
Even hapless Herbert Hoover managed to increase spending more than Obama has.
Here are the facts, according to the official government statistics:
• In the 2009 fiscal year — the last of George W. Bush’s presidency — federal spending rose by 17.9% from $2.98 trillion to $3.52 trillion. Check the official numbers at the Office of Management and Budget.
• In fiscal 2010 — the first budget under Obama — spending fell 1.8% to $3.46 trillion.
• In fiscal 2011, spending rose 4.3% to $3.60 trillion.
• In fiscal 2012, spending is set to rise 0.7% to $3.63 trillion, according to the Congressional Budget Office’s estimate of the budget that was agreed to last August.
• Finally in fiscal 2013 — the final budget of Obama’s term — spending is scheduled to fall 1.3% to $3.58 trillion. Read the CBO’s latest budget outlook.
Over Obama’s four budget years, federal spending is on track to rise from $3.52 trillion to $3.58 trillion, an annualized increase of just 0.4%.
There has been no huge increase in spending under the current president, despite what you hear.
Why do people think Obama has spent like a drunken sailor? It’s in part because of a fundamental misunderstanding of the federal budget.
What people forget (or never knew) is that the first year of every presidential term starts with a budget approved by the previous administration and Congress. The president only begins to shape the budget in his second year. It takes time to develop a budget and steer it through Congress — especially in these days of congressional gridlock.
The 2009 fiscal year, which Republicans count as part of Obama’s legacy, began four months before Obama moved into the White House. The major spending decisions in the 2009 fiscal year were made by George W. Bush and the previous Congress.
Like a relief pitcher who comes into the game with the bases loaded, Obama came in with a budget in place that called for spending to increase by hundreds of billions of dollars in response to the worst economic and financial calamity in generations.
http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012-05-22/commentary/31802270_1_spending-federal-budget-drunken-sailor
Obama has added over $5 trillion to the USA debt.
The most of any president in history.
Next rex is just giving you his leftwing opinion.
Furthermore the CBO is only as good as the information you give it.
So anyone can give the CBO material that no matter what will come out to their advantage.
For the real facts go to www.gao.gov
Obama Cares, yes, but it isn't he who's causing unemployment to be so high, it's the co-operations, bankers, Republican Congress and GOP/Tea-party people, who wants to keep American's without jobs and other's down and out. Do you really think they care about white people too? All they care about is the dollar bill, who's going to become the next billionaire in Forbes magazine. You may think they are doing the right thing by not doing there job to serve the "We The People", but in all they are hurting everyone. Not only our they trying to keep minorities from voting, they our including white folks from voting as well who need and have assistance through welfare. Like I said before if you really believe that Romney is the real deal to vote for, then that's your choice will become the deal of the life time, cause if your not already hurting no matter what the percentage unemployment is now, it will get much worse. Realty not even jobs or the economy can work that fast as bad as Bush left it, that's what I think a lot people don't get, is how bad thing were and are. By the way for those who really read my earlier post, I was speaking of all men and women of all races, but who's hurting the most black and brown, by the way like many mixed races of today, I'm like Obama, half and half, Zebra who wear's her stripes well thank you very much!
TherealChris, You tell 'em. Spot on!
Of course, they won't listen to facts, but keep trying, and so will I and TM and whomit, and LadyZ710 and Larry!!
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/romney-vs-obama-electoral-map
Too bad Obama is way ahead.....LOL
The huffingtonpost LOL...
One more leftwing outlet.
furthermore polls in the month of August mean nothing.
The only poll that counts is the one on election day.
And Ofoodstamps will not win.
Ronmey will win by a landslide.
Delusion
A delusion is a belief held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary.[1] Unlikehallucinations, delusions are always pathological (the result of an illness or illness process).[1] As a pathology, it is distinct from a belief based on false or incomplete information, confabulation, dogma, illusion, or other effects of perception.
Delusions typically occur in the context of neurological or mental illness, although they are not tied to any particular disease and have been found to occur in the context of many pathological states (both physical and mental). However, they are of particular diagnostic importance in psychotic disorders including schizophrenia,paraphrenia, manic episodes of bipolar disorder, and psychotic depression.
Lol. Would you liberals settle on one story? many have been posting how the government is smaller than it has been in like 50 years or so. Others are bragging about how federal civilian employment has bee slashed to record low levels.
Now Chris is bragging the he "rate of growth" is what has slowed. Quite different stories. If the others are right, then Chris has to be lying? Or is chris right and tex, et al, lying? Or are they all ful of beans?
There are approximately 88 million people in this country not working for one reason or another, all are being fed, probabably have a cell phone, a television and a roof over there head. Many will vote for the status quo.
And Mutt got a 77,000 tax break for his nag, where's your outrage?...lol
No outrage here he paid 3 million in 2010 John. I bet you will never pay 3 million in your lifetime. You probaly have never even paid capital gains taxes. I know I havent and never will pay 3 million. Is there not a cap on how much one has to pay? My god I would say 3 million is plenty for any one to pay in for one year. However people like John are jealous that they are not rich and have to cry and cry because they cant be like Mitt.
The facts are obama did change the welfare act that Clinton signed into law.
The law required people that receive food stamps and welfare to actively look for work and prove it.
This worked, it took people off the welfare system and back into the work force.
Obama wants the USA to become a welfare state like the P.I.G.S.
He wants the American people to have to rely on the government for subsistence to live.
Obama wants to tell you what freedoms you have, and you had better be thankful the government is here to pay your way in life.
That is why obama will not win come Nov.
Right and in tomorrows news a guy dressed in a cow costume got put in the psych ward for ranting his delusions in public.
I have one question to ask you, Ho, about your delusion regarding Obama:
How would it profit him, as president, to have everyone relying on the government for assistance? What would he gain? Who are ALL THESE people who want welfare? My Doctor, a college professor, a cleaning woman, a nurse, a teacher, a scientist? Who? You think we all want welfare? I don't even know anyone on welfare! So help me out, here.
What "freedoms" does Obama want to tell me I have?
Answer that, please. Also, if that were true, which it is not, why is the stock market doing so amazingly well under a president who wants everyone on
welfare?
Are you aware of the fallacies in your argument?
Governor Romney released an ad today alleging that the Obama administration had weakened the work requirements of the 1996 Welfare Reform Act. That is not true. [...]
The recently announced waiver policy was originally requested by the Republican governors of Utah and Nevada to achieve more flexibility in designing programs more likely to work in this challenging environment. The Administration has taken important steps to ensure that the work requirement is retained and that waivers will be granted only if a state can demonstrate that more people will be moved into work under its new approach. The welfare time limits, another important feature of the 1996 act, will not be waived.
The Romney ad is especially disappointing because, as governor of Massachusetts, he requested changes in the welfare reform laws that could have eliminated time limits altogether. We need a bipartisan consensus to continue to help people move from welfare to work even during these hard times, not more misleading campaign ads.
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Are you aware of how crazy you sound?
Obama made it so people do not have to prove they are looking for work in order to receive SNAP benefits.
This over rides the welfare reform act Clinton signed into law.
That is the fact.
So the question is shall the president of the USA have the power to change laws with out sending them to congress?
Congress is the body of government that make the laws not the president.
Obama is doing his best to expand the powers of the executive branch, you know his office.
And we the People are not going to just stand by and let some socialist change the USA into France.
You need help. You are so delusional with this nonsense about socialism and France and welfare.
The USA is CAPITALIST. The stock market is soaring. Jobs are being created. Obama would be the last person to want to see a country he is head of be on welfare! Why would he want that? That's crazy! He's been practically begging the damn GOP congress to pass work bills and the REFUSE!
What's the MATTER with you!?
Fact: Cook Medical is not going to open a manufacturing plant that would employ 1500 Americans due to the tax on Medical Device makers.
So these 1500 jobs are now going out side the USA.
And that is just the tip of the ice berg.
Jobs are not being created, there are fewer people working today than when obama took office.
Over 12 million people out of work.
Over 41 million on food stamps and now do not have to look for work.
over $5 trillion added to the debt by obama.
And Cook Medical says ' Thank you teabaggers' for giving us the tax breaks so we can move our company to China at minimal cost, plus the saving in labor!
First you whined about GE not paying taxes, now you say cook is taxed too much? Which is it? FOS is the answer.
Right up to the tippy-top.
"WORKFARE" began in Wisconsin when my husband was a Social Worker here, and he was actually a BIG part of that conference! I would venture to guess that REAL Republicans (the ones with the REAL money) collect MORE "WELFARE" than any poor people EVER dreamed of collecting.
What about the $4-5 billion dollars of WELFARE money to the multi-billionaire oil corporations, and the "WELFARE" money recouped by all the super wealthy REAL Republicans in their "tax deductions"? YES, those "gratis" tax deductions, allowing Republicans to SHIRK their obligation to help PAY FOR the bills of running our country, ARE equally named, WELFARE!! There aren't many (if ANY) super-wealthy Republicans who AREN'T on some type of WELFARE, SUBSIDY, TAX DEDUCTION type WELFARE!
ANY and ALL money, that someone gets from our government for doing NOTHING, is called: "WELFARE"! So, they can put THAT in their pipes and smoke it!
Very good point the EIC is welfare as well. Why give a person back more than they paid in?
Couldn't have said it better myself, thieves robbing you in daylight! Don't have to close your eye's cause know one is calling them out till they get caught sending money overseas, or lying about paying taxes, when their not. I couldn't see myself, voting for anyone that has a billion dollars and won't show how he's made it, but wants to run this country on blind faith and trust, no thank you. But you want to "STOP" giving help to people who need it the most, even when the economy started falling . Do they really think most people really want to be on Public Assistance, really! Cause I can tell you, they would rather be working with a decent wage to be able to support their family and fair affordable Health Care.
No Lady if I could draw 1300 a month tax free not working I would. Hell I would have to make 15 bucks an hr to bring that home working. Nobody in their right mind would work for less than they could get free. I would draw my check and try to find something under the table. Unfortunaly I jsut became disabled about 6 months ago and Im not able to work even under the table.
I don't go by what Obama, Clinton or what Ed says. The directive speaks for itself, funny how none of these people what to talk about the specific details. Doesn't Ed know how to read?
NO, you go by what Glenn Beck, Oyxrush, slopehead hannity and Michele Bachmann tells you. Nuff said.
This is how the liberals thinks:
Dude walks into the casino with $1000.00 in his pocket.
Sets down at the 21 table, losses $400 bucks, then wins back $300.
He then leaves and heads home, he gets home and his wife asks him "How did you do"
Dude says "I won $300 bucks" his wife than says "So you have $1300 bucks now"
Dudes says "No only have $900, but I own $300 baby"
Wife says "Look baby, you left with $1000, now you have $900 you did not win anything you lost $100"
Dude "But look I won $300"..... and that is what the liberals keep trying to tells us all, they have added jobs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
More cow man chain email bull@!$%#. Here is a clue cow man you were just whining that there were no jobs now you are whining no one wants to work.
whomit, He/she/ Ho, missed college logic.
I think he missed a whole lot more then that India.
This is how HO thinks:
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The funny thing is, I think whom was following perfectly until the "added jobs" part. Have you read her logic?
what Ed wont tell you Obama changed the definition of what is considered work under welfare. he added to the list outrages things as bed rest, reading a book, getting a massage, surfing the Internet, talking on the telephone, going out to eat, sitting at home with your kids, getting a hair cut, and the list goes on
So to be truthful you are right he didn't take the work requirement out of welfare he just added things that we normally do on a daily basis out side of our work as work. so you basically can sit at home and go about you business of not working and it would be considered work
At issue is a directive released last week that would enable states to experiment with changes to their welfare-to-work programs, primarily as a means to bypass burdensome paperwork and reporting requirements. The letter to Mr. Camp and Mr. Hatch clarified that waivers would only be granted if states aimed to increase work placement by 20 percent, and waivers would be rescinded unless states demonstrated “clear progress toward that goal” within the first year.
But, since then, a nontrivial number of Republicans have supported waivers for states to tailor their welfare-to-work programs. In 2005, Republican governors penned a letter to Senator Bill Frist, the majority leader, backing waivers for states. Last year, five states, including two — Utah and Nevada — with Republican governors, urged the health and human services department to consider allowing waivers.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/19/obama-administration-defends-change-to-welfare-to-work-program/
I am not talking about Waivers you don't need a work requirement waiver if you change what the definition of what work is under welfare if you add things that you normally do outside of work as work you are considered working so no waiver is required
its like giving a tax waiver to somone who doesnt pay taxes
I hope President Obama addresses this issue, and explains the early voter lawsuit in Ohio on prime time T.V. Surely we can break away from the Olympics for a half hour.
I wish we could totally break away from the Olympics, myself.
So, are you saying you only get one channel where you live?
No, you are.
I would like for him to explain that too. I think miltary deserve to get 2 more days than civilans. He also needs to explain why hes not suing the other states that have the same policy.
Asked by CNN on "The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer," if he believes the ad, released Tuesday claiming a directive issued by Obama would "gut welfare reform," is misleading, the former House speaker declined, further backing-up his former Republican primary opponent.
President Barack Obama's re-election campaign has strongly pushed back, however, calling the attacks false and pointing to the part of the directive's requirement that states with the waiver must increase the number of people on welfare going into the workforce by 20%.
Gingrich reiterated that he doesn't think Obama has the authority to waive the requirement adding, "the reason was candidly we and the conservative republican congress did not trust the liberal governors to actually keep a work requirement if they had a chance to do away with it. Look at everything Obama's done. Look at all of his commitments on food stamps, all of his commitment on increased commitment on increase dependency."
Ok, Obama has done a lot of really stupid stuff from an economics aspect, but we do need to give him credit for positives. He has opened free trade with Columbia and south Korea, and has now approved Russia as a most favored nation in trade.