First Lady Michelle Obama is receiving rave reviews after a speech that sung her husband's praises as both a man and a president, and implored Democrats to work for his re-election.
“Yes, hope and change but not hope and change magically overnight, but hope through hard work and patience and time and effort and then change,” Hardball host Chris Matthews said Tuesday night following the speech to the Democratic National Convention.
Michelle’s speech, Matthews added, "was a much more mature look at American life and a much more realistic look at their life.”
The First Lady’s speech, which centered on the President’s own moral compass honed through his own years of struggle and striving, received rave reviews from pundits.
Chris Hayes, the host of MSNBC's Up with Chris Hayes, noted that the speech also made the argument that the president's moral compass is a core part of the reason why he deserves re-election.
“If you like the man Barack Obama is, but feel a little ‘eh’ on how the country is, you can’t separate who that person is once they get in the Oval Office,” Hayes said. “The speech made a very explicit argument that the things that are the biggest political strengths of the president should be the controlling factor in casting your vote.”
“I think the most effective part was her telling how they related to their daughters,” Politics Nation host Rev. Al Sharpton pointed out. “People don’t put their kids up for a political auction and when she started talking about the dreams for their kids and how he’s at the dinner table answering the questions, that’s the thing that brings you beyond politics.”
For many, it was Michelle Obama’s brightest moment as First Lady.
“Four years ago, the conventional wisdom was that she was a political liability,” GOP strategist Steve Schmidt said. “Four years later, she stands on the stage tonight delivering just an incredible speech.”
Indeed: “She had the crowd right in the palm of her hand,” The Ed Show host Ed Schultz remarked. “Tonight we were reintroduced to a star.”
And Lawrence O'Donnell, the host of The Last Word, had an intriguing response. "Her political future, if she were to choose one, is virtually unlimited," he said.
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Such grace, poise, intelligence and beauty. I am so very proud of our First Lady. Four More Years!!!!
Michelle / First LADY - That Was An Awesome Speach and Insight -- You GO Young Lady ---- PERFECT ---- I LOVE YOU ♥♥♥♥♥ .................♥♥♥♥♥............
Will You Be Running For POTUS in 2016 -- I HOPE SO !!!
Great gal with a great speech, made you feel that we are all in this together and let you know that we all have to work together and it is going to take time to get there.
You can tell that they are a couple very much in love and support each other.
I like the way she work with vets and thier families . Just all around girl with passion for her fellow man like her husband.
She has true compassion!
Ann has whine.
maybe we can import some french cheeeeeze to add to ann's whine.
Spending so much time there, avoiding the draft, Mitt would know the perfect French cheese to go with that. :)
I wonder if she will still love America in November when Romney is President?
Did You Piss Yourself AGAIN - Is That Why You Have Such A NAZI Attitude ?? hmmmmmm ??? GOMER ............ he he heeee -- What A DEEEEEK .............
Sad that after such an incredible and substantive speech all you could think of was a dumb joke about Romney. Romney is an empty suit and a man with no real moral compass when it comes to his politics. Romney i'm sure is a fine man in his personal life, but as a public man he's a soulless and unprincipled politician and his policies reflect that. How anyone could really think he should lead this country is beyond me. What could allow you or anyone to ignore his flip flops, lying and continued attempts to evade paying his fair share of taxes? Do you support this version of Romney or the many other versions over the years where he had completely opposing positions.
The GOP is doing absolutely abysmally with independent women and Hispanic voters. The GOP continues to badger women with their insulting antiabortion, anti-family planning, anti-Affordable Care Act which is really insulting to women with families to care for who need affordable health insurance. The GOP has also done its best to totally alienate Hispanic voters with its anti-ACA and filibustering of the Dream Act. Polling also indicates that only a very few percent of black Americans will be voting GOP either. I am not sure what the GOP has to offer college educated white men either with their anti-science, anti-women agenda, anti-green energy agenda. The GOP kept saying "no" to President Obama's American Jobs Act and his small business tax credit bill. These two bills would have created or saved three million jobs. So other than the brain washed low information crowd, racial bigots, or angry old white people, and the top one percent who is going to vote GOP? There just are not enough old angry white people to go around for the party of the one percent to have a credible path to 270 electoral votes.
Yes 2 we will all still love our country but we will not give a @!$%# about willard.
That is right, you guys on the left don't joke. Will try this. Michelle told a touching story of her parents, how neither of them went to college. But they worked hard, saved, even took out loans so Michelle and here brother could go to college. Did you ever hear her attribute her success to the Federal Government or Government Programs? I didn't. I heard her honor her parents for their hard work and sacrifice, so she and her brother could have a better life. The same holds true for her story of Obama and his grand mother. She said nothing about Government Aid or Government Social Programs. Michelle attributed Obama's success to his grand mother. Same for Castro.
That said, why is that you on the Left believe that but for Government people cannot achieve success? Why do you expect less of yourselves than your parents and grand parents expected from themselves? Do you really think a single mother today has less of a desire, willingness, or devotion to her children than Castro's mother? Do you think a grand mother bringing up her grandson today is less capable or driven than Obama's grand mother? People are what made a difference in these people's lives, not Government Program or Aid. The so called War on Poverty is proof of that, trillions of dollars spent combating poverty and more people in poverty than when you started.
ok. i'll bite. somewhere i lost any reasoning attempting to decipher what your message is saying. agreeing with and @Thankful Mom.."yes 2 we still love our country but we will not give a @!$%# about willard"...well said.
but if i am not mistaken, the point to michelle's speech was to praise and give credit and HONOUR to those familial roots as to where THEY came from and those familial roots that helped them ACHIEVE to be the person they are today. her speech was making the connection to those out there who are that struggle every day. i don't think i really need to educate you about struggling specifics of people in this country. oh i keep forgetting. the other party doesn't want to dirty their hands or speeches with the struggling in this country. nor, do we want a start a debate as to how many times this sitting congress has continued to sacrifice the people of this country by continuing to obstruct BECAUSE of this obsession of theirs to vow to make this sitting president a one term president. oh. my bad. i am sooooo off track here.
mj, Struggling if that is the word you want to use, is how success is achieved. Success is earned and more often than not it achieved through generations of a family.
Success is not given by the Government in this country. Castro's, Michelle's and Obama's stories are about how success is achieved and those stories were completely void of Government Programs. They were Conservative Stories of how America Works, they were not Democrat stories or stories of Obama's Utopian America where the Government walks you through life from Cradle to Grave.
I am a little older than the Obama's but when I was first married my wife and I didn't have a mortgage payment that was less than our college debt, we didn't have a mortgage at all. We couldn't afford a house. We worked for seven years, saving money, and paying off debt so we could eventually buy a home. Neither of us went to college, but we made sure our son did could. Now at 27 he owns two rental properties and his college debt has been paid off. All without the Government stepping in and doing our job as parents for us. That is how it is done and has been done in America for generations.
Now back to your use of the word "Struggle". I really don't see that way. We do what we have to do. We ate a lot of hot dogs and beans when we were young. We never bought a new car, and we drove our cars for ten years or more. Some may look at the things we did as "Sacrifice" or "Struggle" I see them as doing our jobs as parents.
Thats your problem 2ez, you think republicans are the only ones that struggle for what they have. Your self inflicted blindness doesn't allow you to see 99% of the ppl in this country, repubs AND Dems pay their dues for what they have. But you've been brainwshed into thinking Obama wants a 'Utopian' existance for everyone according to Fake news and Oxyrush. The speech the First Lady gave last night just shows how wrong you ppl are, and have been for the past four years. But don't let the truth get in the way of a BS propaganda machine.
John, Did you hear Michelle attribute Obama's success to a Government Program or even mention Government Social Programs when discussing Obama's grand mother? I didn't. You are right that we all achieve success in a similar manner, hard work and sacrifice for the betterment of our children and grand children. That is the way it is and has been in this country from its conception. We all have the opportunity to succeed.
Democrats want to change the way success is achieved in America. Democrats want Government Programs to guide our daily lives and push us along the way. Democrats see the Government as our only hope and expand the roll of Government in our lives at every opportunity. Housing subsidies, Food Stamps, Medical Care, Free Cell Phones, transportation subsidies, education subsidies, Green Energy subsidies, New Car subsidies, etc.... I am not sure if Democrats believe the recipients are stupid, less capable, or simply less devoted than others, but I see the entire concept as a slap in the face, an insult. The Middle Class of American didn't get there because the Government put them there, they did it themselves, just like the Government didn't build that Small Business. Hell the Government didn't even build that road, Tax Payer dollars did, Tax Payer Dollars paid by some but not all of the citizenry. Democrats want some to pay more to the Government so others can get more from the Government.
I like to play porker, but have never dreamed of telling the guy who is winning to redistribute his winnings at the table to the losers at the table. And that Sir is exactly the way I see Democrat supported Government Social Programs. If you want success, get off your Butt and go get it, no one is going to give it to you. Otherwise sit there with your hand out and see just how successful you become.
Yes it is still about "Hope and Change". Yes it is slower than we may want, but at lease President Obama is not stepping over the problem like Mitt Romney would. President Obama was not running from the problem, he was crawling through all the landmines that were out their and trying not to get himself and our Nation blown up, and I "believe" given another "four years" that Mr President Obama will "succeed"!
And if he doesn't succeed you can always blame his incompetence on GOP congressional obstructionism or George W. Bush.
It's worked for you for four years, why not try for eight?
No we will blame it on the lying cheating republicans, because they are But I might also point out they are ignorant morons as well if they elect willard the wrigh wing witnit.
The irony of "Bravest Face" not showing her face is pronounced.
BF, please consult the voting records of the House and Senate during the last 3 years. Republican's willingness to score political points via the "obstructionism" (thanks for accepting that concept) at the expense of all of us is dismaying at best.
G.W was not the greatest President. Not horrendous either. However look at the economic indicators when President Obama came into office. Very tough challenge for him.
@BravestFace - It worked because it is TRUE you jack ass! Tell us what your terrific radical congress (which gets the lowest ratings in American history from Dems and Repulicants) what the hell they have done besides writing 63 Abortion bills and establish unconstitutional voting restrictions on anyone they don't think will vote for them? And the absolute FACT is that George Bush DID leave the country worse off than any President ever has, and he too had the lowest ratings among both party's of ANY exiting President.
So go ahead and pass the buck to Obama as if none of what I just mentioned (or what you knew but have conveniently forgotten by watching too much FOX TV)....you are endorsing fascist, racist, endorser of rape induced birth like it is Gods gift, the rich plundering the nation to get richer and corporations are buying and selling your candidates at every level of government....and all you can think about is "Getting the @!$%# outta the White House!" You should be ashamed of yourself. (and my apology's to all, but it could not be said any other way)
Except that you forget that Congress is supposed to obstruct bad ideas. It's part of their job. If they had stepped out of the way and let Obama do whatever he wanted and things turned out bad, I'm sure people would be blaming them for that as well, right?
You've confused me with someone who loves George Bush. I think he's an idiot.
Jump to conclusions much? Just because I don't like Obama doesn't mean that Romney is getting my vote.
You should be ashamed of yourself to presume you know what my thought is about Romney.
Excuse YOU.
Really? This late into the narrative, send out the obtuse thinkers! Slowly, snailing their way through the narrow-est candidate pool!
I see a pattern forming; I smell a rat: Republicans are blogging as the Undecided voter. Posers!!!
Bravest Face, get a clue! We see you at your little blog station with your flag poster and miniature liberty statue.
Vote! A Full Democrat Ticket 2012. CHANGE GOES VIRAL!
It's just the same old banned nicks under new names they re reged to get past the ban with. Funny how they insist to be undecided but have only repeated the same GOP lies they posted before their ban.
Thats because deep down they're too ashamed to call themselves teabaggers. And with good reason.
this 1ST lady gave a morally based speech far beyond Mrs. Romney speech. Right on!!!
Gives the idea of determination and sacrifice needed by the people to move this country forward.
I'd love to play them side beside. I know who would win hands down.
Is it just me, or does Michelle Obama wreak of a sincerity that Ann Romney does not even seem to fathom? I swear I do not ask that or phrase it that way to cast aspersions upon Mrs. Romney, but Michelle has a perspective and a personal aura that is more than just appealing, it "feels" genuine and comforting, I could see my mom in her and hear my mom in her voice and words.
I didn't get any of that from Mrs. Romney and I kid you not, despite her stiff, fake and disingenuous husband, I do not think that the wife and children of a man like that are doomed to be just like him, so I listened to her (Ann) as hard and with the same focus I listened to Michelle with....but Michelle makes an impression that Ann cannot even imagine somehow, I just don't get any feel from her, I get fear and a standing off feeling like I am not welcome in her world much less her arms (if a hug was what I needed).....I can honestly say that Michelle strikes me as a woman who I could walk up and she'd hug me like a compassionate human.
D-D, you are so right on the mark. What a wonderful First Lady. No wonder the Queen fell in love with Michell. As far as the warmth of Michelle and Obama, that is what draws me to them. Just the kind of people I want in the White House making all the hard decisions for the American People.
The "hard decisions" like whether to sue states to insure they cannot enforce America's immigration laws? Or whether to declare war on american coal miners and their families? Or The hard decisions like whether or not to shove Socialist medicine down Americans throats DESPITE 70 % disapproval of that hog?
Hi Mom! Right-on! The visual of 2009 Michelle Obama and Queen Elizabeth with arms wrapped around each others waist. What symbolism of approach-ability!
Thanks Davis D for opening up my memory for an airing! :-)
Michelle Obama's speech was not a FLOTUS speech ... it was a truly Presidential speech ...Huff Post rightly said "Top That Obama" ...the passion, poise, integrity and commitment displayed by Michelle Obama shows the Romneys in their true colors ....rich,privileged and utterly disdainful of the 99%.
The Obamas, can top the willards any day of the week......come on Debates......maybe we should have a wives debate......ROTFFL.
I think we had just had one, albeit not in the same place at the same time. The First Lady came out the winner here.
Speaking of the "Moral compass" of the guy that trampled immigration laws to garner a few votes...Withholds documents from congress to cover the murder of a border patrol agent ...that's some moral compass....
The self same "moral compass" that sat in the front row of the "Rev." Wrights disgusting racial diatribes and ran in the same circle as attempted cop killer Bill ayers....Moral compass...What alternative universe do liberals live in?
scotty still going with that long debunked Fox news fake outrage again. See scotty that is your biggest problem you watch to make Fox news fake outrage. I mean really scotty who are you going to believe Fox news or the agents who were doing the ATF work.
How about the family of the agent killed by Eric Holder.?
That was the work of a rogue ATF agent. Look it up. On a site that doesn't spew Republican BS.
You mean in The ATF documents being held captive by executive Privilege? A Bigger D-bag would be tough to find.
yet again, scott the right winger, proves himself to be the moron that most right wingers are. romney is really counting on right wing morons, imbeciles and idiots to vote for him, since intelligent people despise liars. and romney hood and pinnochio ryan are the biggest liars since cheney.
fools embrace liars that share their bigotry, and that just about defines the right.
But alas, no comment on the hiding of documents to cover criminality on the part of the President/AG....good defense of this ethically challenged individual.
Because there is no case the GOP can make because it is all fake outrage produced by Fox news. But you know that and you know your are just whining to whine about something.
Gotta laugh at their pick and choose fake outrage. Unbelieveable.
Face it folks, Michelle and Barack are the real deal! They are true Americans with the values that we love in a president. He is a truth teller and represents all of the things the GOP wishes their candidate had. AGAIN!!!
What BHO "Represents"....Higher taxes,Big Government,Class Warfare,Illegal immigration Government dependence. What BHO does NOT represent...Israel,American Business, American Law, Fiscal responsibility, Marriage between a man and a woman and personal responsibility . Low Energy prices Energy producing States and personal accountability.
hey scott, what does romney stand for?
The American taxpayer, The American worker AND the American justice system...all casualties of this incompetent President.
Romney stands for a stronger private sector, a healthy private sector. one that will actually help our economy GROW instead of stagnate...He supports Israel, unlike the Dems who refuse to acknowledge Jerusalem as the rightful capital of Israel. He stands for marriage and life, not choice and murder. he stands for each and every INDIVIDUAL American, NOT the "collective" that ends up being represented by a growing amoprhous government.
And Romney stands for women- strong, independent women...not those who need the government to hold their hands...not those who need pandering to like the Dems do about 1 issue, and 1 issue alone...and he CERTAINLY doesn't support the REAL war on women, that encourages women to be beaten and supressed, like Obama does (See Egypt, and Obama's buddies in the Muslim Brotherhood)...
really? if your definition of taxpayer is billionaire, you're close; but if it's the middle class you're just as wrong as other right wing idiots.
so how is he for the taxpayer?
really? if your definition of taxpayer is billionaire, you're close; but if it's the middle class you're just as wrong as other right wing idiots.
so how is he for the taxpayer?
Scott - Actually in spite of the obstructionist republicans we have added 4.5 million new private sector jobs. This President gave the executive order to execute the raid and killing of Bin Laden. We tried your way of life for 8 years and we almost went into a depression...Sorry been there done that and enough is enough. If you are so blind that you can't see that...there is no hope for you and you can live in your world of hate...You are right in one respect the American Justice System has been killed under the rule of the republican elected supreme court. The only incompetent president I have seen in my 60 years is George W Bush..
how does a strong private sector help the economy to grow without demand? one of the big right wing lies among many big lies is that lowering taxes on the rich and corporations will increase job creation. so why did the economy collapse under bush who did exactly what you are embracing now?
ask any economic expert, demand is what grows the economy and creates jobs. so how does giving more money to the rich increase demand?
I did not hear Romney Pushing for higher taxes on American business (during a recession)to pay for more food stamps, health care for illegals and those that do not care to support themselves. To ACTUALLY allow American energy sources to be used to bring the price of energy regulation down and provide AMERICAN JOBS. Would you prefer Americans to work...or be on Hussein's welfare rolls to support his "Green energy" agenda?
ok, come_and, you're typical right wing propagandist. let's blow your blather. prove it. prove you conjectures.
let's read some proof. talk is cheap and romney and ryan are proven liars so please don't waste our time with pronouncements from proven lliars.
What about this individual ACTUALLY putting his "Fellow Americans" out of work in Appalachia with his war on Coal...or even putting 80% of the most promising oilfields in America off limits that would give people in Hurricane devastated Louisiana MUCH needed jobs to pursue his "Green Energy" agenda? THOSE are JOBS THAT EXISTED..UNTIL this failure put them on the street....
wow, scott you really are an idiot. romney is pushing for taxe cuts for the wealthy. how will that help the country?
how much will the price of energy drop if the energy companies are not responsible for polluting the environment? do you really believe that presidents have the ability to substantially control gas prices?
i prefer american people to work than to be slaves to billionaires.
and i am for green energy unlike dolts who think that fossil fuels are inexhaustible.
Scott do you know the meaning of war? Better check it before you use it so loosely. But you are a typical republican always talking about war but when the time comes you run for the hills just ask Romney....what a coward this man Romney is...
romney put his fellow americans out of work every time he bankrupted a company and ran off with the pensions of the workers.
facts are tough to swallow for those who swallow lies. american energy production is higher under obama than under any other president. that's a fact.
and sorry to say, most of those jobs were lost in the bush recession. you might have heard that bush gave us the great recession.
facts are facts and it doesn't matter what you believe it doesn't change the truth.
WHEN Green energy is ACTUALLY practical, and the infrastructure exists to support it...I'm good with that. UNTIL then...200 years of easily extractable natural gas, 200 years of accessible Coal which provides some of the poorest states in the nation with good paying jobs with which to feed their families. this "Green energy" you speak of now is nowhere near market ready and has cost taxpayers HOW MUCH money? I Am WITH THE American WORKER...AND for people being able to feed their families and lower energy prices (even for the poor people) and TO HELL with your pipe dreams that robs American jobs in a recession.
marvilus- PROVE my blather??? lets see...all the proof i can muster is that when businesses are strong, and confident about the economy, they hire people. they grow. the economy is not growing. the private sector is terrified under Obama. that is why Obama has had 42 straight months of unemployment over 8%. the proof of Obama's failures is right there...lack of private sector growth and high unemployment. i can't PROVE Romney and Ryan's plan will work- it hasn't happened yet...but i can EASILY prove that Obama's hasn't worked.
your understanding of supply and demand is minimal, at best...dangerously ignorant at worst.
ifor1- you are so blind that you can only see 2 forms of politics- Obama and Bush...believe it or not, there were presidents before those 2 guys...at age 60, you'd think you would know that. your world view is so myopic that you only see the traditional "D" and "R"...that game has passed us by...it no longer exists...RYan represents the new face of America...ROmney is the transition guy, the guy who will put on the breaks of this crazy, out of countrol government that Bush and Obama have combined to give us...Romney is the last of the "old guard"...he represents business, not government, which is what we need right now...
give up the old "D" vs. "R" game...they want us playing it...the power players at the top get more powerful the longer you play that stupid, out-of-date game.
isn't it interesting how scott and come_and actually attempted to define what romney "stands for", but couldn't present anything but right wing lies and propaganda that's already been completely debunked.
it's very sad to see such ignorance in the age of information.
@ the other doofus talking about "do I know what war is about"...USA vet. Yes I do know. But...if you bother with history..you will understand that preventing a World war is better than trying to win it by playing "catch up" Last night for example...China tells US to "Stay out" of the south China Sea dispute...Are YOU prepared to defend your allies...or crawl back in a hole and allow a Communist country to run roughshod and steal territory?
Marv, you ask for us to tell you what ROmney stands for...and then when we do, you dismiss it, because it doesn't comport with your world view...sounds like a "you" problem. I did what you asked me to do. so it sounds like you already have your answer before you ask it...the only answer you will accept is somehting like "I can't define what Romney stands for"...anything else you dismiss as "propoganda". thats pathetic...that's a whom tactic. you should feel much shame.
come_and says, "all the proof i can muster is that when businesses are strong, and confident about the economy,"
what makes a business confident about the economy? simple, demand. if the middle class has no money, how much demand does that generate?
the rich have more money than they'll ever spend, and they haven't increased demand and created jobs.
you double down on ignorance with this, " the economy is not growing. the private sector is terrified under Obama. that is why Obama has had 42 straight months of unemployment over 8%. the proof of Obama's failures is right there...lack of private sector growth and high unemployment. i can't PROVE Romney and Ryan's plan will work- it hasn't happened yet...but i can EASILY prove that Obama's hasn't worked."
the private sector is terrified? i guess apple isn't in the private sector. adding 4.5 million jobs over 42 months is more important than 8 % unemployment because you bring bush's recession back into the spotlight. most economic experts agree that without the stimulus unemployment could have been 12-15%. 8% is success not failure.
you haven't actually proved obama's failure. you've repeated right wing lies.
and you're right romney/ryan hasn't been proved thank god. economists have said that it will add $10 trillion to the debt and won't balance the budget for 20-30 years.
and you still haven't proven anything about whether obama's policies have worked or not.
if congress would have passed obama's infrastructure bill it would have added 1.5 to 3 million jobs. so why do republicans want america to fail?
Gee...being as America can't afford more "stimulus". How did those "shovel ready" projects turn out?
come_and, i ask what romney stands for because i don't really know, and neither do you. you have proven that with every response you post.
here's something to contemplate if you dare. after romney announced ryan as veep he and his surrogates were asked about his and ryan's economic plans. in four days the responses ranged from "almost identical" to "very different".
my estimate of what romney stands for is tell your audience what they want to hear, pander to their hatred and bigotry, and hope that his supporters aren't smart enough to seek the truth.
i believe i've proven that with my responses.
scott, 4.5 million jobs proves they worked.
so why do republicans want america to fail?
why do liberals want to kill all babies???
see what I did there??? took your ignorant question and followed it up with an equally ignorant one to you. I won't bite on your question, because its a false premise and an intentional lie.
4.5 Million private sector jobs added...that number is debatable...some say only 4 million. regardless, what number is NOT debatable is that Obama is still NEGATIVE overall in job creation. more jobs lost than created. Unemployment = 8.3%, and UNDER employment is about 13%.
most economic experts agree that without the stimulus unemployment could have been 12-15%. 8% is success not failure.
wow, this is nice...most LEFT LEANING economists agree about the stimulus...and Obama promised- PROMISED- that with the stimulus, unemployment would "never get above 8%"...its been above 8% his ENTIRE PRESIDENCY!!! how is that a success, when its NEVER been lower than his WORST CASE scenario???
you may as well say that a football team has a "Successful" game if they lose by 20 points, because they COULD have lost by 30 or 40...so a 20 point loss is a success...no its not- its still a loss!
hey scott, as a usa vet does it bother you that romney/ryan want to cut veterans funding by 20%? does it bother you that ryan voted against obama's veterans job bill? does it bother you that romney never mentioned veterans or active duty servicemen in his lame acceptance speech?
under romney/ryan veterans who really need help will suffer. do you support that?
and by the way the "red scare" doesn't work anymore for enlightened individuals.
my estimate of what romney stands for is tell your audience what they want to hear, pander to their hatred and bigotry, and hope that his supporters aren't smart enough to seek the truth.
i believe i've proven that with my responses
Marv-
you've defintely proven that is what you believe...good for you. you can't show a single example of Romney or Ryan's bigotry or hate- or conservative America's bigotry and hatred- that won't be based on anything but your own partisan world view. you have also proven that. POint out my bigotry or hatred...point out ROmney's...Ryan's...
does it bother you that romney/ryan want to cut veterans funding by 20%? does it bother you that ryan voted against obama's veterans job bill? does it bother you that romney never mentioned veterans or active duty servicemen in his lame acceptance speech?
in your own words, prove it...with something other than DEM talking points.
keep tryin, come_and: "4.5 Million private sector jobs added...that number is debatable...some say only 4 million. regardless, what number is NOT debatable is that Obama is still NEGATIVE overall in job creation. more jobs lost than created."
your math skills are much different than mine. 4 million is negative? where do you get that?
almost forgot, come_and, why do liberals want to kill babies? that is what you posted isn't it?
come_and, "in your own words, prove it...with something other than DEM talking points"
ryan's budget calls for across the board cuts; check ryan's voting record, he's voted against all of obama's proposals; watch romney's speech. q.e.d.
proof complete. easy.
no, 4 Million is positive...the overall NET jobs created/ jobs lost is still negative...you have to account for both sides of the equation, Marv...think of it like your disposable income...you may have a slaray of $40,000...but your expenses may amount to $30,000. that doesn't mean you have $40,000 to spend on stuff- you have $10,000 ($40 - $30). you have to account for jobs lost...to assume 4.5Million jobs created, there would have to be ZERO jobs lost...and every week, we hear about 375,000 people applying for "first time jobless benefits" every week...
yes, people are still losing jobs.
as for bigotry and hatred, many right wingers believe obama is an illegitimate president, are you one of them?
many right wingers believe obama is muslim, are you one of them?
people who hate are blinded from the truth. romney lies about obama's policies. do you believe romney's right wing lies?
are you a hate-filled bigot?
so let me get this straight. how many millions of jobs were lost before any of obama's policies took effect? and how many of the lost jobs were a result of obama's policies, and not the bush recession?
i need to know that so i can determine that 4 million is negative.
You mean in his bio in a book on his father...the line He used to describe himself "Born in Kenya,raised in Hawaii" was a lie?What idiot would believe Obama...right?
nope. nope. and nope. I think he's legitmate...he kicked McCain's arse in the election. I have no problem with the results of the election. I don't AGREE, but I accept the results.
He's not Muslim. Obama isn't dedicated enough to ANY Religion in his life to pray 5 times a day...I believe he is exactly what he claims to be- a Black Liberation theologist who has received spiritual advice from Jeremiah Wright and Jim Wallace...both Marxist in their ideologies.
I have no hate...not a bigot at all...we all have our differences of opinions. my disagreement with you, and with the President are based in our ideas, not the way we look. I LIVE DR. MLK Jr's philosophy of judging a man by the content of his character and not the color of his skin.
but the very fact that you are suggesting I ama bigot, based on 5 posts between us says a lot about you. you can't possible accept that people who have a different opinion than you may have it based on legitimate concerns. you assume that if I disagree, it MUST be because I am a bigot or racist. whatever. if that is your premise, then we have nothing more to discuss, because it shows you are stuck in your world view and won't accept anyone else who is different than yourself...
kinda the textbook definition of a bigot...
i believe obama was born in hawaii because he has a birth certificate just like mine.
And I also know the "4.5 mil" jobs "Created" is STILL a net loss....care to read CNN today? And all of his numbers lie about his job performance? I MUST be a "Hate filled Bigot" for daring to use his performance against him.....LOL
There are STILL more Americans out of work today than when BHO took office. NET NEGATIVE. What was his PROMISE on unemployment...HIS not me putting words in his mouth.
now, come_and, did i accuse you of being a bigot?
do you know any right wingers who are haters and bigots? they were the ones i was referring to. if i accused you of being a bigot , i apologize.
i actually enjoyed the correspondence. but you did prove that most of you ideas are off shoots of right wing propaganda. i hope our correspondence will open your mind to the possibility that your opinions may be wrong based on the facts.
ask yourself how much better this country would have been economically if the right wing congress would have worked to help america and not worked against the president.
Or...how much closer to insolvency and MORE credit downgrades...
so scott, how many of those people lost their jobs under bush and the bush recession?
thanks for admitting you're a hate filled bigot. it must be cleansing.
the congress caused the downgrade or did you forget?
And all of the Liberals that are "enlightened" on the Red scare....I would point to all the Europeans "Enlightened" on the Hitler regime before THAT World War. It goes back to the point...do you stand with your allies...or no? If China attacks Taiwan...You protect Taiwan?
Actually...it was this President and his being oblivious to the debt and his continued spending.
Marv-
you asked several times "Are yo one of them?" about hate filled bigots. so don't act like the assumption wasn't there...I accept your apology, but lets be honest here...if you care to discuss policies, I am more than willing to have that discussion...if you want to play the MSNBC "Everyone who disagrees with Obama is racist" angle, then I am not interested. Its intellectually bankrupt.
I dont engage in propganda. sorry. you may not agree with things, but it doesnt make it propoganda. i like to deal in facts. as to you rlast question, I don't agree with the premise, because its NOT government's role to "Create jobs"...the "Jobs Act" (Stimulus) is a government work program...thast doesn't help...sure, it makes the president's numbers look good on unemployment, but it doesnt help the economy, because they aren't private sector jobs...which drive the economy. I didn't agree with stimulus, i didn't agree with bank bailouts...I didn't agree with GWB when he "Abandonded free market principles to save the free market", and I don't agree with Obama's absurd spending (neither does congree, apparently, since Obama got exaclty ZERO votes from any Dems on his budget proposal).
lets not forget- the right only controls one house of congress. what has the Reid controlled Senate done to advance the conversation?
BOTH sides are guilty, Marv. those are the facts. both sides want to spend, both sides want to obstruct. they do it so all of us fight over who's fault it is. i won't play that game by their rules.
I'll keep an open mind to what you present- I have had some good convos on here and have learned some things from those on the left- and I'd hope you'd do the same...we can all learn something.
thanks scott, you've proved my point.
which allies has president obama said we don't stand with?
when did perident obama say we would not stand with taiwan?
"I would point to all the Europeans "Enlightened" on the Hitler regime before THAT World War." what exactly does that mean?
just to be clear, come, my opinion of the stimulus is that it infused money into the economy, into the hands of the middle class where it would be spent and create demand which would drive supply and create jobs.
you believe that jobs woulde be created without increased demand. i strongly disagree with that. i believe basic economics.
i'm curious how you would have created the demand that would drive business to job creation without a stimulus.
a stimulus is a shot. its a short-term solution. its getting a pain injection in your knee, when you need surgery for a torn ACL. you may be able to make it through the game, but you are puttin goff the inevitable.
Stimulus is no substitute for real long-term growth. and you have to ask "at what cost"...nearly a TRILLION dollar "shot", to boost growth for 6 months??? there was no long-term growth that resulted from stimulus.
demand is created when people feel "safe" finanacially. again- stimulus is a shot, a drug, that will make people feel good for a short time, but not long term. low unemployment, a growing economy, companies HIRING, THOSE are the elements that drive demand. they are based in something REAL, not devalued, borrowed government dollars.
even "Basic" economics are based on different perspectives. a Keynesian perspective on economics is vastly different from a Friedman perspective. yet, people could claim they both believe in "basic economics".
come, i'm also curious about your view of romney's lies about obama's welfare policy or about the $716 billion medicare lie.
and how about the right wing lie that no private sector jobs have been created?
and how about boehner's drunken declaration. "where are the jobs"?
you do admit that more than 4 million private sector jobs have been created.
sorry, come, you've presented some concepts but not real actions. my mistake. what concrete actions would you propose to jump start the economy?
Marv-
just a point for future conversations...you can't keep calling everything representing Obama a "policy" and everything representing ROmney a "lie"...if you want to engagte in honest conversation, you have to call them both policies...just a point of interest.
the comments about Obama and welfare aren't inaccurate. Romney claims that work requirements are being dropped...here is what is actually going on: States may now change the (work) requirements — revising, adding or eliminating them — as part of a federally approved state-specific plan to increase job placement.”
so its not a lie. states can still eliminate job requirements. Obama has taken a federal ruling an dput it back on the states, as well as a lot of requirements on the states for job training and such. do you think the states will use their hard earned dollars to implement new job training programs, or since its federal money they get for "free", they'll just drop the requirements? sorry, i am skeptical of state governments.
the private sector has createde no jobs, IN NET...4 Million created, over 4 Million lost...in aggregate- no new jobs created. both sides will demagogue the issue, and present it the way they want to...but the facts are the facts. overall, net jobs are at a loss.
Don't get me started on Boehner...I can't stand that guy...
as far as you rother question about jump starting the economy, wow...big question!!! that's a tough one...thankfully, I don't have to make those sort of decisions. way above my pay grade. i can tell you the principles that I believe in that would help...lowering the corporate tax rate for one. closing tax loopholes so companies actually pay taxes here in AMerica and not overseas. fixing the tax code in gneeral, to help small businesses. ELiminating Obamacare, which puts an unfair burden on small businesses. getting RID of an "Economics council" dominated by HUGE corporations like GE- if they set the rules, then the small business will NEVER be able to compete. reducing regulation, letting the free market regulate itself...government intrusion (a theme developing here) hurts small businesses. stymies their growth.
have the government focus on things it should be focused on- our security, our standing in the world, and little else- and not involved in regulating the daily lives of AMericans (no PATRIOT Act, no PIPPA, no SOPA, no DHS, no "Myplate.gov", no limiting the size of soft drinks, etc...)...government that is this involved in our lives scares me. the more power we hand over to government, the less liberty we leave ourselves. this applies in our daily lives, AND in the economy.
thats about as specific as I can get in a blog post, hopefully there are some things there that you see as specific, and will no doubt disagree with. :)
come, i skimmed over this, "but the very fact that you are suggesting I ama bigot, based on 5 posts between us says a lot about you. you can't possible accept that people who have a different opinion than you may have it based on legitimate concerns. you assume that if I disagree, it MUST be because I am a bigot or racist. whatever. if that is your premise, then we have nothing more to discuss, because it shows you are stuck in your world view and won't accept anyone else who is different than yourself...
kinda the textbook definition of a bigot..."
did i really not accept any other views or did i simply present facts and observations that cast doubt on your views?
thanks for implying i'm a bigot. that casts your opinions in a completely new light.
you might want to consider the posts of your ally scott.
it was an implication made in response to a similar implication. in fact, you apologized for implying I was a bigot, I'll do the same. Apologies for the implication.
at the time, yes, you had made an assumption about my character based on very little. but as I said- "If that is your premise, then we have nothing to discuss". I accept now that that's not your premise.
as far as my views, you haven't yet presented anything strong enough to make me doubt my views.
now that we've both gotten past the name calling and made our peace, perhaps you can respond to my "proposals" that you asked me for. you asked, I responded, and I would love to hear your feedback on my responses.
come, "in net" is a debatable point as you agree. the right wing conveniently leaves that out. you can't disagree with that. that's what makes it a lie.
as for obama allowing states to implement welfare to work is really a conservative ideology... states rights. you posted, " states can still eliminate job requirements", does states == obama? saying that obama is removing the work requirement is a flat damnable lie! even you can't deny that. your response mitigates the lie but it doesn't make it true.
you skipped the $716 billion savings lie. why?
please tell me why you support romney a proven liar!
you admit that jump starting the economy is a tough question, above your pay grade. president obama was faced with the same question, he could do nothing as romney proposed and let the whole economy crash or he could take action and try to stop the collapse into full depression.
now let's go back and recall what actually happened. potus originally proposed $1 triion+ stimulus suggested by economists, i vaguely remember 1.3. the republicans refused. so to pass the bill he lowered the amount to $780 billion about half of which were tax cuts. is that how you remember it?
can you tell me that the full 1.3 billion would not have gotten the economy rolling?
so really, if the stimulus failed, which i don't accept, the republicans are equally responsible for the failure, yes?
and one last thought, if you in good conscience can severely criticize president obama for having the courage to take action to save the economy and hence america when you and the republicans had no clue on what to do, what does that make you?
ok, come, i'll try to opine on your proposals.
" letting the free market regulate itself...government intrusion (a theme developing here) hurts small businesses. stymies their growth." without government intrusion what's to prevent monopolies, pollution, fouled water, destruction of national parks, poisoned food, carcinogens in the environment, and so on?
and not all small businesses are stymied. koch industries qualifies as a small business and they're doing fine. my point is that not all small businesses are hindered, your words imply that all or most are stymied.
i completely agree with you that policies and bureaucracies created by the corrupt and incompetent bush/cheney regime should be examined and removed.
as for tax reform, i'm for it, but not by republicans. closing loopholes is absolutely essential and republicans have proven they won't do it. the oil subsidy vote should suffice to prove they won't.
you already know that both romney and ryan's budget plans cannot be scored economically because they don't specify loophole closings that will pay for their tax giveaway to the rich.
so, how'd i do? you can't say that i don't answer or defend my points with facts.
the right wing conveniently leaves that out. you can't disagree with that. that's what makes it a lie.
just as the left leaves out the losses. as i said- both sides demagogue the issue.
as for the work requirement, it may very well/ will be eliminated in most cases...try it for another issue- Abortion. What Obama has done to work requirements is roughly the equivalent of overturning Roe vs Wade. If Roe vs Wade was overturned, it wouldn’t make abortion illegal, it just returns the options to the states. Do you think if Roe vs Wade was overturned that Democrats would say “this doesn't affect abortion rights”? I don't think so.
as for the $716B Medicare issue, Washington Post (Liberal newspaper) calls it true: A CBO report said that: If Congress overturned the law (Affordable Health Care Act), “spending for Medicare would increase by an estimated $716 billion over that 2013–2022 period.” thats a cut in medicare. period. and thats from CBO, fact checked by WashPo. let me know if you want the link to the article, its rather lengthy and detailed.
I mentioned above why I support Romney. He has more of a free market view for our country, not a government nanny-state view. I trust his economic vision much more than I trust Obama's. can you show me how's he's a proven liar?
how would YOU propose to get the economy moving on its own? I would love to hear some of your ideas, since I gave you some of mine.
as for the stimulus, you ask an unfair question. on one hand, you want to assume that the "whole economy would crash" if ROmney's recommendations were followed, but then lay out "how do you know the Stimulus wouldn't have worked if it was $1.3T"? the HONEST answer is, we don't know how EITHER ONE would have done. it's my belief that a bigger stimulus would have left us DEEPER in debt, and it may have helped an extra 6 months...it STILL wouldn't have meant long-term growth, as we are seeing now...the stimulus helped in 09-10, and now, our economy is stagnant. so what, we would have grown through 11? but not beyond? I don't know...the same as YOU don't know that the "entire economy would have collapsed"...i am 100% skeptical of that claim...its like the auto industry claim...Detroit would NOT have "shut its doors"...look at Ford...CHrysler wasn't saved, and GM will NEVER pay back the money they borrowed...so how effective WAS the auto bailout??? we'll NEVER KNOW what would have happened. we can assume or surmise, but we'll never know the answer to either of those.
finally, I don't think that the actions Obama took were to "Save" the economy. it was a HUGE opportunity to spend more than anyone else at any one time in the history of America. as Rahm Emmanuel said, "never let a crisis go to waste"...i criticize his actions because i think they were the wrong actions...same as you do with ROmney- you criticize him because you don't agree with him...what does that make ME??? a concerned, well-informed citizen...one thing I WILL give Obama- he's made me a much better citizen!!! I pay much more attention now than I did 6 years ago...i thought i was "tuned in" then...nope. not even close. I am now.
without government intrusion what's to prevent monopolies, pollution, fouled water, destruction of national parks, poisoned food, carcinogens in the environment, and so on?
the free market will. we are in a different time than we used to be. consumers want companies that will play smart. companies aren't going to engage in the actions they engaged in 100 years ago. I don't mean have NO regulation at all- there are laws on the book preventing monoploies (Sherman antitrust). then there are excessive laws, such as Sarbanes-Oxley. there is a balance.
and not all small businesses are stymied. koch industries qualifies as a small business and they're doing fine. my point is that not all small businesses are hindered, your words imply that all or most are stymied.
the little guy- those making just above $250,000 a year- won't survive...they won't grow. I know several small business owners who won't hire, strictly because of Obamacare...
i completely agree with you that policies and bureaucracies created by the corrupt and incompetent bush/cheney regime should be examined and removed.
and those created by the corrupt Obama administration...ANY corrupt policies should go.
as for tax reform, i'm for it, but not by republicans. closing loopholes is absolutely essential and republicans have proven they won't do it. the oil subsidy vote should suffice to prove they won't.
if Washington got serious about tax reform, they would do it. problem is, no one in Washington wants to get serious about tax reform. NO one. either side. like i said- it no longer a "D" vs. "R" problem we face. its a corruption problem, and BOTH SIDES are in on it.
you already know that both romney and ryan's budget plans cannot be scored economically because they don't specify loophole closings that will pay for their tax giveaway to the rich.
hard to specify which ones until you get in there and take over and figure it out. tell you what- lets BOTH vote ROmney/ Ryan, and then we'll get those loopholes closed... :) As for specifics, i suggest you read Ryan's "Path to Prosperity" plan, namely pages 58-67. he gets VERY specific wrt changes he'd make in the tax system.
so, how'd i do? you can't say that i don't answer or defend my points with facts.
thanks for answering. intellectual reparte is so much more productive than the name calling that goes on far too often. I appreciate your feedback.
Michelle Obama had the most honest line of the night:
"Being President doesn't change who you are, it reveals who you are".
Very true, Michelle, very true...
Obama was a Marxist when he won the election, and now he has been truly revealed as a Marxist...
Careful CATT, your paranoia is showing.
It was a good speech to bad it was just one big Lie
Michell and Barack bought a $277,500 two-bedroom condo in 1993 right after they was married--a high price even by today’s standards. Several years later, they moved into their $1.65 million mansion in Hyde Park--with the help of fraudster Tony Rezko. Barack often told a story of hardship on the campaign trail in 2008 about having his credit card declined--once. The fact that he thought this counted as real hardship speaks volumes.
As her husband moved onto the national political stage, Michelle Obama began to enjoy a lavish lifestyle at taxpayer expense, directly and indirectly. When Barack Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate, he obtained a $1 million earmark for the University of Chicago Hospital--and his wife’s salary as Vice President for Community Affairs jumped from $121,910 to $316,962. Her job: pushing poor, uninsured patients to other hospitals.
sounds like a struggle doesn't it. sounds like to me they lived rather well on the tax payer dime
I also found that story about the "rusted-out car" and " too small shoes" hard to believe since there are so many bios out about him that don't include these facts. Not the first time we have been fed similar tear-jerk drama to get votes.
the rusted out car is truth, coming from the Midwest I can attest that they put a lot of chemicals on the road and the stuff used to kick up and rust out the bottom of the car and the doors. Had one of those myself.
How come Obama has been in office just 1.6% of the time since our country was founded, but he's created 33% of the total debt we've accumulated since our creation as a nation???
This discussion began about the 4 years under this guy...and SOMEHOW Liberals really don't want to talk about the results of his decisions. Remarkable.
how much of the deficit and debt is due to bush policies?
tHE GUY HAS HAD 4 YEARS AND IS A MONUMENTAL FAILURE...You can carry water for the guy and throw that useless antiquated term bigot and even racist out all day long and all it makes you is impotent and ignorant. You want "Racism" Look at the mean streets of the inner city, and the deaths and WHO is committing those murders and say bigot and racist to ME again...That is a term of the past and holds no water today.
LOL.....You ppl are pathetic. The president has easily accomplished more in just the first three years of office as bush did in eight. But you ppl live in a constant state of delusion anyway. Thats why no one takes you ppl seriously.
Come_And_Take_Them - There were presidents before the past two? I didn't know that. The year is 2000 and look the economy is running on all cylinders with OMG a Democrat as President. Forward to 2008 we are losing 800,000 jobs per month with a Republican President. But are you kidding me the wealthy are having the greatest year of their lives. How is that? They the "Job Creators" are doing great while 100's of thousands of workers are out of work? For the final time CNTT get lost as I do not associate with people like you. You are so filled with hate you cannot see anything else. Too bad because you seem to have some intelligence which is wasted on lies and hate....have a life or whatever you call it.
lol...thatws too bad that you are blinded by your own predjudice to have a rational discussion...
no hate here, bother...i have nothing in my life to hate...its a wasted emotion, and I've often wondered why so many people engage in hate...but thats fine- you can dismiss our differences as "my hatred" if that makes you feel better. I see it as we both have our opinions in this free country. your numbers are skewed, but that's fine...I agree that the economy was doing very well under Clinton. I agree that Bush caused a lot of ecenomic problems. I won't play that "Bush vs. Obama" game...sorry, they are too similar for my liking, by FAR!!! both guys are bad news. both guys are progressives. small government isn't even in the discussion anymore.
it has to be if AMerica will survive.
take care, God bless. if you don't wish to chat, that's your prerogative. I have no hate for you or anyone else. i hope for your sake you can get over yours.
Just more catt projection of himself on others. Poor catts ego gets in his way of seeing catt is not the center of the universe and outside of other scared little children they have to have others tell them what to say and do or they wander around bumping into walls.
whomitmay - so true and he/she/it (catts) will never know any difference.
In tea bagged republican land ignorance is bliss, they don't have to deal with reality.
hey, come, if you're going to claim the high road, you really have set idiots like scott straight.
thats not my job. I am not the "board police". everyone is entitled to an opinion. who is to say that MINE is better than Scott's? Sorry, I won't police anyone...I don't want a "holier than thou" type shouting me down, I won't do it to anyone else. I respect everyone's right to whatever they want to say, even if I don't agree.
And to hear a couple of blind followers that has not the sense to either read the news or comprehend the meaning of said news really does nothing towards "Putting me in my place". People vote with their pocketbooks...not some kind of "White guilt complex" as this loser would like to lay on the uneducated....
sorry, come, but i disagree. everyone is entitled to their opinion, but they're not allowed to lie and dissemble without consequence.
truth stands for itself, lies must be destroyed before they can have detrimental effects.
i have to assume that you find no lies in scott's posts or in other right wing propagandist's postings. too bad. i have exposed most with the truth and facts.
of course, you have said you disagree with the facts, but that's your prerogative. you may deny or rationalize facts and truth as you will. i was actually fooled by your "fothrightness".
i'm done.
Yes...you are.
And The DNC wants their script back.
everyone is entitled to their opinion, but they're not allowed to lie and dissemble without consequence. truth stands for itself, lies must be destroyed before they can have detrimental effects.
Dude, its a blog...relax.
of course, you have said you disagree with the facts, but that's your prerogative. you may deny or rationalize facts and truth as you will. i was actually fooled by your "fothrightness".
I never said i disagree with facts...I just don't necessarily agree with your version of them. and you havent exactly been dealing in truths...you've been passing your opinions off as truth all day...
did you bend over backwards to call out "ifor1" or "whom"??? i think not...you may not be a bogit, but you are defintely hypocritical.
i'm done.
yes, you are. too bad, i thought we had a good discourse going. best wishes to you. enjoy the blog.
"Dude, it's a blog....relax"......Translation- We can post all the lies and disinformation we want. -CATT
Still over 8% unempoyment.
Still over 40 million people on food stamps.
Still over 20 million people out of work.
And the debt is now $16 trillion, great job obummer
you forgot to add and still an obstructionist republican party of do nothings....That is the most important one of all ..
Supporting a failure doesn't make you a "true patriot"...just REALLY STUPID.
so how'd you feel when Bush was President? I bet REALLY, REALLY STUPID!
Just who controls the senate? not the Republicans
So we have now over 1100 days of no budget.
31 bills sent to the senate from the house that have not been read.
Keep talking about this "obstruction" that is harry reid and the dumborats.
GWB unemployment rate over 8 years 5.5% 3 years of obummer over 8%
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Same post different day
"Centered on the President’s own moral compass honed through his own years of struggle and striving", really? "Struggle and Striving" what a joke. Why did Michelle leave out Rev. Wright? I would think that 27 years in Wright's Church would have had just a little influence on Obama's moral compass. Also no mention of Frank Marshall Davis, Obama's mentor. What kind of influences did he have on Obama's moral compass?
Back to Obama's "Struggle", what struggle? Obama's "Struggle" to buy a property from Tony Rezko? Obama's "Struggle" with Cocaine and majijuana as a youth? Obama's "Struggle" with grades in High School? I really think the only "Struggle" Obama has had in his life was trying to deal with his abandonment by his mother and Alcoholic Father. What affects did that have on his moral compass?
oh yeah, let's go there. romney's struggle to decide which stocks he had to sell to pay for his expenses was epic.
how about romney's struggle to support the vietnam war before he fled to france to avoid the draft. when you're a born coward it's always hard to be a hypocrite and support a war you never intended to fight.
how about romney's "brave" sons who would rather make money than defend their country. there's a thread of cowardice and avarice that must be in the romney genes.
romney has no problem rattling the saber and threatening war as long as other people's families have to bleed and die, or lose limbs and minds as long as he and his family can hide, safe in their counting house. chicken hawks always do.
Wow...at least they were not spitting on troops or even winding up in the NVA war museum as a hero as John Kerry has done.And SEAL team 6 pretty much came out with THEIR view of their current C-I-C...not flattering...so spare me.
Wow, I was discussing Michelle's comments. How did Romney and Kerry pop up?
So Marvilus, do you think Wright and Davis influenced Obama? If so what impact on who Obama is did those influences have? Don't you also think being abandoned by his mother and father had an influence on him?
I simply don't believe Obama has struggled with too much in life. I don't see him living from pay check to pay check like the rest of us. I also don't see him giving to others, like the rest of us. The guy is worth millions, but he know little of Charity. Obama wants Tax Payers to do what he as an individual is not willing to do. If Obama is so concerned about the Poor, why is he still RICH?
As for who serves in the military, the answer is very few. I didn't hear Michelle talk about Obama's service in the Military, perhaps she simply left that out?
Do you believe when they met his proudest possession was a coffee table he found in a dumpster or that he wore shoes too small for himself? Small lies lead to bigger lies.
I believe it about as much as I believe small children waited anxiously at the top of the stairs every day for their crippled father to get home from work and hobble up those stairs. I believe it about as must as I believe the Democrats had two thirds vote to change their platform today.
Jim Messina: Paths to 270 Electoral Votes -- Obama For America
or (if you prefer) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=_7Y-Q9ZY5Ao&NR=1
CHANGE GOES VIRAL!