Massachusetts Republican Scott Brown just can’t seem to let Elizabeth Warren’s disputed Native American ancestry go.
During the second, testy debate in their hotly contested Senate race on Monday night, the GOP senator went on defense after being questioned by NBC’s David Gregory.
Gregory pressed Brown to say whether there was any evidence to suggest Warren had benefited or was hired because she had previously claimed that she was Native American.
“The real issue, David, is what she’s telling the people," Brown replied, later adding that “the best way for her to do that is for her to release her personnel records.”
Warren, a progressive hero, once claimed on a Harvard job application that she was part Cherokee. She later clarified that she was 1/32 Native American, saying she had been told as much by her mother, and had taken that fact at face value.
Warren reiterated that claim during the debate, saying, “I’ve answered the questions about how I was born, what I learned growing up.”
Brown, who is trying to retain his seat in the left-leaning state, also tried to distance himself from Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney—not long after Brown appeared reluctant to say he backed Romney, before his campaign clarified that he does.
When Gregory asked Brown if he supported Romney, he said “yes” on economic issues, quickly adding that they are “two different people.” He also insisted he would have to read each bill, if re-elected, to determine if he agreed with Romney on it.
At one point Brown lost his cool on Warren, a Harvard Law School professor, when he felt like he was being interrupted.
“Excuse me, I’m not a student in your classroom. Please let me respond,” he said to both boos and cheers.
Brown also seemed to run into a bit of trouble when Gregory asked him who his model Supreme Court justice is.The GOPer immediately named right-leaning Antonin Scalia, to both applause and boos.
He then added liberal Justice Sonia Sotomayor, swing Justice Anthony Kennedy and conservative Justice John Roberts.
When Gregory noted Sotomayor and Scalia were on opposite sides of the spectrum and asked him to "pick one," a testy Brown responded, "Listen, I don't need to pick one, we have plenty of justices up there and I'm proud of the ones we have."
Gregory later asked Brown if he'd vote for Mitch McConnell to be the Senate's top Republican again. Brown insisted McConnell "has a lot of work to do to earn my vote."
Outgoing Democratic Congressman Barney Frank (D-Mass.) told MSNBC host Rachel Maddow that Brown's claim that he hasn't made up his mind about McConnell is "non-credible."
He also ripped Brown for claiming several times during the debate that he'd have an "open mind" on controversial issues.
"I think he is kind of crossing the line from independence to incoherence because he understands if he were to say what he plans to really vote it would be unattractive to voters," said Frank.
A new Boston Globe poll shows Warren leading Brown by five points. But 18% of voters are still undecided.
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In case people forget, tracking your ancestry is not easy and many people must rely on stories handed down. Our family has Cherokee somewhere along the line...all you have to do is look at my mother who had obvious Cherokee features including black hair, high cheekbones, almost black eyes and an olive complexion and family stories of a distant relation who was Cherokee. No one else in her immediate family had this coloration. Now if you look at me, I am fair, blue eyed and more of the Scot/Irish from my dad and English from the rest of my mom's family, but theoretically if we could track this officially, I could say I am Native American. We have completed the tree back to 1040 but are still pouring over the Cherokee records to try to figure out the connection...so if Elizabeth Warren is operating off family stories, leave her alone!!
Brown is a bully and has only one drumb to beat.....and that is because otherwise he has nothing else to talk about. He wants to dis tract us from his real problems as a candidate.
"I was born a poor Black child."
What a Jerk!
"I was born a Native American."
What a Jerk!
It's about Racism.
The law requires you to demonstrate, with solid evidence, that you are Native. Elizabeth "Cherokee Princess" Warren has never done that. She has no evidence. She bases her claim solely on "family stories."
And she did it again last night, doubling down on her lie.
In Indian Country, that's called Racism.
That's what it's all about, for us. That's what she is, to us.
Princess Warren: a Racist White Jerk.
Only if you claim that status for some gain.
And it would be you that is a "white racist jerk".
Larry, Would you say being the First American Native on the faculty was a financial gain?
Are you making a statement, or asking a question?
Why don't you ask the faculty?
Chris, Would you say Obama gained financially from being the First Black President? You know Obama is a 1%er with 10 million in the bank.
I don't know 2ez. Would you say Bush gained financially from being the first really, REALLY, dumb, President? I mean stone, stupid, President?
Larry: Dead wrong. It's racist if you claim it falsely. Gain has nothing to do with Racism.
So, is it the claim that her family has lied to her all along?
It's about evidence and documentation. Read my other posts.
I suppose if you followed by heritage back, you'd find lots of things. But, I'll just keep clicking the same box I always have.
No, we don't leave people alone who claim Native ancestry based on "family stories." Native status is a legal and cultural status first, and racial only secondarily. We're sick and tired of whitepeople who try to gain some sort of sick personal ego boost or try to cut in on some AA/EOO goodies based on bogus "family histories."
In Indian Country, it is Racist to claim Native ancestry based on "stories." Under the law, it must be demonstrated with solid evidence. It's the law.
If you want to say you have family stories about a Cherokee ancestor, well, ok. That's honest. But don't claim to be legitimately Native based on family stories. In Indian Country that's a bad joke, and Racist.
I wonder why I am doubting you. Maybe it's because E Warren didn't really try to use her ancestry for personal gain. And, you seem angry for no good reason, really.
Senator Brown has a fatal flaw in arguing that one has to look like an Indian (Native American) to be of Indian descent. My maternal grandmother was 100% Indian, 3/4 Chumash, 1/4 Comanche. As my maternal grandfather and my dad are of European descent, that entails I'm 25% Indian (3/16 Chumash, 1/16 Comanche). Of my grandmothers 4 children who are 50% Indian, and of 20+ grandchildren who are all 25% Indian (since none of grandma's children married anyone of Indian descent), only one granddaughter inherited the appearance of looking like an Indian. By Senator Scott's argument, none of my grandmother's children would be Indian, and of all the grandchildren, only the one would be an Indian. The fact that I don't look like an Indian does not negate the fact that I inherited Indian from my grandmother through my mother. The case with Elizabeth Warren's claim to be of Indian descent is not any different than mine in any essential way.
The fact that Elizabeth Warren is 1/16 Indian, with a dad of European descent and mom with 1/8 Indian and 7/8 european descent, but did not inherit any traits that make her look like an Indian simply means that none of the corresponding alleles for looking like an Indian are dominant; they're all recessive. For every generation removed from having one ancestor who is 100% Native American, where the other parent does not reintroduce any Indian genetic inheritance the odds of inheriting dominant alleles that correspond with Indian traits decreases by a power of 2, but is still non-zero.
Senator Brown's ignorance of genetics and heredity is as profoundly disturbing as is Rep Akin's ignorance of how a woman's reproductive system works in the aftermath of being raped. Both show a definite ignorance of scientific reality.
This discussion is based on genetics only, not culture or religion, or any other sociological influence.
Good discussion of the genetics involved. But Native identity is first a legal and cultural one, only second a racial one.
And Princess Warren has used it for personal gain. We deeply resent whites appropriating a tenuous connection, at best, and using it to boost their egos, public personae, and professional status. It's Racist.
All Native Americans are 25% European, due to Europeans coming here 40,000 years ago.
And Warren didn't exploit her ancestry for personal gain.
Chris,
Why then did Prof Warren click the box if it wasn't for gain???
What gain? Other than using the word over and over, no one has demonstrated any.
Texas Scarborough:: And you know FOR FACT that she checked the box for gain? Show us-- and I'm not from Missouri, but you still need to show us.
UnReal Chris: You're a funny guy (2.4). Not a fungi, a funny guy.
#2.6 very cleverly totally avoids the central issue: Princess Warren is a Racist.
Work on more funny posts. It's your forte'.
Susie: You heard her "check the box" last night. She doubled down on her lie as a play to the crowd and the voters. If simply repeating her lie over and over helps get her elected Senator (which it probably will), she will have gained in public status, legislative influence, all the yummy perks Senators get, etc., etc.
So, Susie and Chris, Racism pays, and pays well, in the case of Princess Warren. QED
The only proven racist on this blog is YOU.
And yo mama wears Army combat boots.
Stupid name calling. If that's all you've got, you've lost the debate.
Winning!!!
Once again, not name calling. Just a description of your actions.
And you've certainly called enough people racists on this thread. Which makes you a hypocrite.
Winning, eh? Just like Charlie Sheen.
"Boston — Fauxcahontas put up a new TV ad this week. In it, Liz Warren shares the pain her supposed Indian heritage has caused — why, her parents had to elope because her dad’s family didn’t want their son marrying a girl with Indian blood."
"Huh. Twila Barnes, an indefatigable Cherokee genealogist, dug up the 1932 wedding notice in the Oklahoma papers. Warren’s folks got hitched in a large Protestant church 20 miles away, then drove right back to their hometown of Wetumka."
"A wedding party was held that evening; Mrs. Warren’s mom’s best friend was a witness. Some elopement."
"Warren: Did well by being “Native American.”
"But Warren, the Democrat aiming to take back Ted Kennedy’s old Senate seat from Scott Brown,has to keep trying to stand up her claim to a few drops of Native American blood — because she’s not going to convince anyone that she didn’t “check the box” to propel herself to success and wealth."
"Brown hammered her on it from the start of their first televised debate the other week. Warren’s now a $350,000-a-year tenured professor at Harvard Law, because “she checked the box . . . when she applied to Penn and Harvard, claiming she was a Native American. ”
"In other words, this isn’t just the most expensive Senate fight in the nation; it’s now probably the nastiest as well."
"Both sides are raising millions — Brown mostly in-state, Warren mostly out-of-state. (Which is weird: Massachusetts has plenty of wealthy liberals.) The polls see-saw — she was ahead in three recent samplings, he was up six in the most recent one."
"But the backstory never changes. Warren, an Oklahoma native, was going nowhere in her career until she began “checking the box,” claiming to be an Indian with absolutely no evidence. Once she began listing herself in a minority law-school directory as a woman of color, she catapulted first to the University of Pennsylvania law school, and then to Harvard."
"And as soon as she had tenure, Warren abruptly stopped listing herself as a Native-American. Now she claims she’s “Okie to her toes.”
"She always points out she never marked the box when applying to college (the University of Houston) or law school (Rutgers). But that proves the point: She never got close to a top-tier school ’til she started exploiting affirmative action"
Nice lie there patticake... up to your same old tricks I see..lie, lie and lie some more...pathetic...
Why is your comment in quotes? Whom are you quoting?
"Fauxcahontas" is just about the most insulting and offensive term I have heard in years.
But, you know - this is really such a petty issue. So much time is spent on this rather than substantive issues and it's just about winning and nothing more. Warren has more than proven her ethics and credibility. Brown, on the other hand, has been caught deliberately lying and he did so again tonight in the debates. This Native American (trumped up) ado about not much is just a sign of how Brown could not find any real dirt on his opponent. His voting record in the Senate gives Warren enough ammo against Brown. She didn't go for the petty stuff. That's class. Brown? Not so much... more like desperation.
Notice Patty never gives a source for her cut and paste.
Because then we'll all know it's phony.
And being a good Liberal...she wants her minority status and any goodies that come along with minority status......
Ah, yes . . . minorities have it so good in this country. Why, especially Native Americans . . . just ask one (if you can find one, that is).
In the meatime . . . the baggers are so busy looking up all kinds of backup to support Scott Brown's assertion that Elizabeth Warren is not Native American that they don't notice that he's an empty suit -- just like his buddy, Mitt Romney.
Brown will say and do whatever he thinks is necessary to keep his privileged position in the U.S. Senate. Remember that, bagger bots, when he inevitably throws you under the bus.
Bottom Line: Is Elizabeth Warren part Native American? Is Scott Brown going to kill Medicare? Which question do you really, really need to know the answer to?
I4, Chris and Skippy,
Just admit it, you don't care if your candidates lie, and lie and lie. Just bring me the goodies. You don't care if your Seanator Lies, Cheats and Steals, just bring me some booty.
My candidates aren't Republicans.
My grandmother was 100% Shinnecock Indian and I take offense of Scott Brown causing such a mess about Warren's heritage. Truth be told, we Native Americans are the true Americans and deserve much more respect than we receive.
Who cares if Warren has Native American ancestry??BFD...
Brown is just trying to hide the fact that he is mcconnell's stooge, his lackey.
mcconnell is arguably the worst Congressional leader in history, and brown lines up obediently to serve him.
Actually, I think we should also take offense at Elizabeth "Cherokee Princess" Warren claiming Native ancestry based on "family stories." You've done your research, and can point to the source of your ancestry and heritage. Good for you. Now demand that Princess Warren do what you have done.
If you watched Melissa's show Sunday, you saw and heard Kevin Gover (Pawnee), Director of the Museum of the American Indian in Washington, D.C., express his reluctance at Princess Warren's claim to Native status. While no one speaks for all the 600+ tribes of Native people in the USA, Gover is a well-respected representative for Native interests. If he's displeased at Princess Warren's claim, we all should be.
That's very true. I am not native American at all but often wonder about the people who in effect we came to this continent and stole the land we now claim some divine right to have.
My great grand mother was full blood Cherokee. I have yet to be able to trace the complete line. Does that mean I'm a liar for saying I am part Cherokee? I don't have any papers. Don't remember how to spell her last name so much trouble chasing it. Ms. Warren never used her heritage for any gains. You claim you native american. Can you prove that? You think it's so easy.
And Brown is an ass for bringing it up.
If you're saying that, based on the best information you have, there is a Native ancestor in your family, that's fine. But if you lay down a claim to be Cherokee, you have a burden of proof that you have to meet, and you admit that you cannot meet that burden.
Be proud of your ancestry. But don't claim to be Cherokee, don't say "I am Native," as Princess Warren did last night, until you can demonstrate it. Princess Warren claimed Cherokee heritage, and offered no documentation, no evidence, just "stories." Sorry, as you have found out, it's not that easy.
True thereshould have been more Native American imput in the talk ,why not have on the pannel a Native American . They are only now a minority thanks to the Goverments killing of Natives ,last one was WounderKnee
You DO realize that they called them "Savages" for a reason. they enslaved each other in ongoing tribal wars, raided settlers encampments and killed Man, women and children somewhat indiscriminately...
You mean the U.S. army?
I don't agree with any of you. You need to look at what she can do for our country and let this stuff go. She is a good person who deserves your vote. I am not from her state but if I were I would vote for her. Go Elizabeth!
Yes, who cares if she is a Racist. She'll vote for the other stuff we want, so vote for her anyway. Great moral compass (snark).
With more liberal Racists coming from New England ("Dick" Blumenthal from Conn.), we're going to have to re-label the NE Democratic Party the Liberally Racist Party.
If anybody is racist it's you and Brown. You care nothing about who they will best work for. Only you own racism.
"Who they will best work for" has nothing to do with Princess Warren's false claim to be Native, something she said she definitely was last night. Without evidence or proof. I confine my comments to her Racism because that is a subject I know something about.
If she is elected, as she probably will be, so be it. Just realize that one component of her politics is lying about her ancestry.
And one component of Brown's is lying about everything.
Remember his "truck" that he drove, to prove he was a "working man," that was actually his daughter's, that he bought for her to transport her horse around?
I'm CERTAIN his DAUGHTER is going to hitch a trailer and pull a horse around on her own....That would more than likely involve a Dad to do the groundwork for carrying a Horse around in a truck....DUH!
Good work, scott! Missed the point entirely!
TRC. You sound surprised! When has little scottie ever gotten the point.
So Scott Brown has made "race/heritage" an issue. Nor did he apologize for his staffers who mocked Native Americans. When asked which Supreme Court Justice he supported he named them all with the hopes of pandering to everyone. Why is it that he attempted to hide when media caught him at the Republican National Convention? Wasn't it Mitt who introduced him when he ran to fill Kennedy's seat? Not to mention how rude and arrogant he is.
Suck it up! The Republicans have lost their face!
In her defense, it's hard to prove Native American heritage. My paternal grandmother was half Cherokee, I was told, but all I've been able to find out about her was her maiden name, and her dates. Actually though if Warren is only 1/32 Cherokee, that isn't much. I would be 1/8. It never occurred to me to mark Native American on my college application forms. I would think that it wouldn't help, unless it could be proven. Regardless, I like Elizabeth Warren, and hope that she wins big!
Yes. it is hard to prove Native heritage. Census records are unreliable, tribes were not allowed to keep accurate rolls, and the Dawes Act was a blatant action by the Fed to steal Native land by disenfranchising thousand of true Native people. Thank you, Federal government, for yet another shafting of Native people.
That said, there's nothing wrong with saying that, according to your family history, you have Native ancestry. It's true, fair, and honest.
Nothing like changing you own opinion.
If you want to say that your family stories say you have tribal ancestry, that's fine. The stories are there, and it's part of your family life. That's fine.
Just don't try to use that to declare you are a Native American. As several posts here point out, it's tough to demonstrate Native heritage to the level necessary to be enrolled in a tribe or get a BIA card. And that's the level anyone has to reach to declare their race as Native American, as Princess Warren declared last night. Based on all available evidence, she is lying and cheating when she says that.
And exactly how did Angeleno change her/his opinion? He/she remained consistent with every single post that was made....it is ok to say that you have family history which says you have Native American blood, but it is not okay to try and take a LEGAL position on the matter, which provides you an advantage over others, unless you can PROVE it.
If these roles were reversed the left would be going ballistic at Brown for making the claim without proof. There would be accusations of him trying to exploit Native Americans for his financial gain, etc etc etc.
The hypocrisy from the left raises it ugly head again...
but then again, using the radical left logic on this subject, it is consistent with why they don;t want Obama to reveal his college information which might show the same type of information about the president...
just saying...
She has said "it needs solid proof. Now she says a "family" saying so is OK. Can't have it both ways.
What she said is that it is okay for you to say that you have a family history of it, but not to use that as your legal claim to being a Native American. she has been consistent in saying that you need more than just stories to make a legal claim...
She is only having it one way...and has consistently said the same thing...
sorry for you Larry...
just saying...
Elizabeth Warren received no special advantages based on her alleged heritage, and Harvard has said unequivocally that her hiring had nothing to do with her race.
Warren said she never used Native American on her college applications and was never given special treatment. So is this another Republican fabrication Scott Brown is using to further HIS career?
Or is Princess Warren a lying Racist jerk?
Perhaps you are.
She is the "lying racost jerk TRC.
Angeleno. Prove she's not Native American. Show us one place she used that claim for an advantage. IF she did, she would have needed the documentation. She didn't.
larry: Sounds like someone just isn't paying attention. If you watched the debate last night, you saw and heard Princess Warren use the claim for multiple advantages. She doubled down on her Racist lie, in a play to the crowd and the voters.
If she is elected Senator (which she probably will be), she will gain a whole passel of advantages: substantial influence over the legislation that governs this country; greater public esteem, which can be translated into all sorts of benefits; all the yummy perks that come with being a Senator. Etc., etc.
Besides, as I and others have pointed out many times before (see my early posts, above, for example) the assertion of Native identity requires documentation. She must present a positive case, under the law. Because that's the law. There is no requirement to prove she is not something--She who asserts must prove.
Time to take that Basic Logic course!
I was married to a Native American man. He was 1/2 Native (Cree), 1/2 French, and enrolled on his family's reservation in North Dakota. He was also 6'4", blond hair, blue eyes, and light skinned. He has another brother w/ the same coloring. He also has 3 siblings who are dark haired, dark eyed, and brown skinned. Our children are 1/4 Native American, and enrolled on the family reservation. They don't "look" Native at all. They have brown hair, blue and hazel eyes, and are very fair skinned. It would be ignorant and racist to say they were not "Native" because of how they looked. And for the person who dismissed the oral tradition of passing down Native American stories re heritage, that is what they had to do because the government did a @!$%#ty job getting them registered. Would my former husband's family and children NOT be native because they didn't have the proper paperwork? Many Native tribes who lived in the upper Midwest also lived in Canada, BEFORE any demarcation was made differentiating Canadian tribes and US tribes. The boundary lines were quite fluid up until the late 19th Century. Getting accurate birth, death, and tribal records can be quite difficult. This issue about race is more "red meat" to the Teapublicans. They are fixated on race as a means of disqualifying someone from legitimately holding office. Sound familiar???
I can't believe so many comments on the Native American thing and not much else. Scott Brown has been called a liar by groups that HE brought into the debate - asbestos victims and coal workers. There goes his credibility and all he could say was it was 'laughable' to think that an insurance company was looking out for workers. What an idiot. The case was 2 insurance companies against each other. He had NO response to that. Half the time he refused to answer the question. Much like Mitt - voters are supposed to wait until AFTER the election to see what he would do.
Except he did admit to buying into Romney's economic plan - which is supported by -- ta da! -- the Chamber of Commerce and the NFIB. The NFIB is not REALLY for 'independent business' since it is supported largely by huge corporations. This is not a group speaking for small business. Brown kept claiming to be an Independent despite years of serving as a republican? Puleeze. What a creep.
LaCC---
Travelers hired Warren to represent the insurance company in its fight to gain permanent immunity from asbestos-related lawsuits; in exchange for that immunity, the insurance company said it would establish a $500 million trust for current and future victims of asbestos poisoning. Warren succeeded in that mission, successfully arguing Travelers case before the U.S. Supreme Court. She was paid $212,000 by Travelers from 2008 to 2010.
However, after she left the case, a separate court ruled that Travelers did not have to pay out the money and it never has. As one judge saw it, Travelers got “something for nothing.”
nothin like a new snake skin....after shedding the old................independent.....ohhhh yeah.....what next Ryan gonna be a new one toooooooooooooooo?
As far representing yourself as a Native American by benefiting, social, employment,
governmental and financial advantage.
You better prove it, she knows it, the next is fraud.
Warren never used her Native American heritage nor applied for any tribal monies or aid, all she did was relate the story of her family. Funny how righties keep missing that point. As far as the rest of what you righties are saying it is kind of impossible to get records because of bad record keeping before the 1950's, unless someone was born on a reservation often there were no records kept on mixed race offspring, that was why it was possible for mixed children to pass as white before 1964. That righties don't know about how bad record keeping was, if you don't have a persons native name you can't trace much. A lot of blacks can only trace their families back to a slave owner or plantation because no records were kept, native Americans fared no better because Native Americans were not considered citizens of the US until the late 1950's, so unless your tribal/reservation name was taken by the government then there were no records except for family stories which often forgot what the tribal name was. Really that you righties don't understand how racism effected native Americans just shows stupidity, often families with native American blood lines kept their blood lines off the record to avoid being treated as non citizens or worse. There were advatages whites had/have that other races don't have and many families saw mixed children as a curse so they willfully hid mixed children's race.
Whomy,
How about some proof that Warren never used her Native American heritage for personal gain.
Just because you say it, it does not make it true
Under the law, to claim "privilege" from the claim of native american, one MUST provide documentation. I know, I've been there.
Otheropinion-
You can't, nor are you required, to prove a negative. You are, however, required to prove an affirmative claim. If you say she used her heritage for personal gain, YOU are required to prove it.
Here I go again.
You heard her use her false claim to Native ancestry for personal gain in the debate last night.
I've written this out twice, above, and don't feel like writing it out again. Suffice it to say that when she becomes a Senator, she will have reaped multiple advantages and gains, in part from using her lie about having Native heritage. Go up the thread for more details.
So in your racist, sociopathic world, everything that she's accomplished in her life is because 25 or so years ago, she checked a box on a college application.
You're as ridiculous as you appear.
Was the debate last night really 25 years ago Wow, time flies.
You're coming unhinged.
And I'm . . . Winning!!!
What is the point of this argument in the debate. Scott Brown loses due to his stupidity, and I hope loses his seat. People are sick of these Repubs. Vote a straight Democrat ticket, so Obama can move the country forward,
Forward to a depression?
Better than back to an ancient feudal system.
David Gregory,Hard on Elizabeth Warren,every account he's had to attack Democrats he's taken shots. again media being bias,and yes Brown loses, Go OBAMA.
Mr. Brown, if this is the best argument you have, then you aren't qualified to be dog catcher. Go pout at home. You really sound like an uncontrollable whimpering, sniveling, crying, sobbing, bellyaching, whining, moaning, thumb-sucking, lip-quivering, butt-puckering, complaining sore loser.
And you sound like a head in his third point of contact Liberal. This "Professor could not name ONE Republican she could do business with....and then to try and use some kind of shady "Minority" status to garner Minority set asides and a favored status due to idiotic Government programs is shameful to begin with.
The reason she can't name a single Republican she can do business with isn't her fault.
NO Democrat can name a Republican they can do business with.
How do you people miss the point with Ms.Warren, when the person she claims had the native american blood line for her passed away and Ms.Warren filled out the information for her where it said race she filled in CAUCASIAN yes that is right Liewatha finally told the truth there now if she would only release her job application to both Penn and Harvard and please do not forget as she wont mention it but Harvard was having protests about not enough minority faculty at the time so please do not tell me that Harvard's eyes didnt light up when they saw the box checked. As for more of the falsehoods that come out of Liewatha's mouth she runs an ad talking about how she is for the people who play by the rules and do things right and at the end of the the debate she said she would give the Illegal Aliens EVERTYTHING ,Have they played by the rules and done things right? Liewatha speaks with FORKED TONGUE
Maybe you should prove she's not Native American. But it only matters if the person used that claim for some personal gain. But don't let your bigotry or facts stand in your way of bad mouthing someone.
larry: You've got to quit using that garbage about personal gain determining whether one is Racist or not. Hogwash! Go up the thread for details.
You must be getting desperate, dude.
My family history also included stories of Native American relationship to one of my lines. Most family members believed it because my father, his siblings and his mother all had black, straight hair, dark skin and high cheek bones. It made sense. And I have shared those stories. Now . . . to my dismay, I took the Ancestry.com DNA test which shows that my ancestral heritage is 92% English, Scottish & Irish . . . and not one drop of Native American blood. Darn. Scott Brown needs to move on from this . . . there are too many of us that understand why Elizabeth thought this was true.
But Princess Warren does not have the integrity to admit, as you bravely do, that she was wrong. She just doubles down on her lies and affirms she's Native American with No Proof At All.
It's about Racism. Warren's lies constitute, in Indian Country, Racism.
Republican operative. With an agenda.
Ignorant, clueless whiteman.
Name-calling proves nothing.
Hilarious. The man accusing others of racism, calls me whiteman.
And then says name-calling proves nothing.
What you are doing is name-calling. What I did was merely a description of your job.
And obviously, quite correct.
TRC. It's all this clown claiming to be native american has. Angel, prove you're who or what you say you are. You are nothing but a name calling racist, right wing hate monger.
Well, the Birthers are out in strength tonight!
Ok, here's my tribal enrollment card. I'm holding it up to the webcam on my computer. Read it and weep!
Sorry. I left out propagandist.
I'm Still Winning!!!
And I retire from the ring, undefeated champion. Thank you all for playing, better luck next time.
Yeah you can be proud of winning the award of the dumbest multi poster on Ed's blog.
http://www.genpage.com/Native_American_Heritage.html
Brown is just doing this to try and direct attention away from the real issues. It also shows that he is a person that shouldn't be representing the people anywhere.
Brown is an arrogant, self-centered SOB and we need to get people like this out of office ASAP.
Brown should be talking about creating more jobs for Massachusetts voters. Why is he wasting time talking about Professor Warren's Native American heritage? Barney Frank said he was disappointed that only a minute was spent on Afghanistan where we suffered our 2,000 killed in action this week. We could spend a few minutes talking about the soldiers sitting out in a remote outpost or out on patrol exposed to snipers, roadside bombs, and ambushes in remote areas or villages.
I wish that the journalists like David Gregory would ask questions about how we will build new infrastructure, green energy, bullet trains, and mass transit across America. We also should discuss how we will break up the big Wall Street investment banks with antitrust actions. Such discussion would prove more useful than discussions about who is Cherokee because I guess I always have thought of us as American.
After this election - the phrase I never want to hear again - "Double Down"!
The ones I hate are "standing shoulder to shoulder," "holding their feet to the fire," and "focused like a laser."
How about "I am a Native American based on my family's stories."
How about "I'm a Native American because I said so."
I have heard that during a recent National, Native American, Tribal Conference, that all Members from all attending Tribes unanimously designated the Senate and Congress as: "White men and women with many wires down".
Tom Nass
5th Marine Division - WWII
Good one!
Remember Ward Churchill, getting his job at Colorado based upon his claim of being an Indian? Ditto...
Reminds me of the time Al Gore claimed to have "taken the initiative and invented the internet". Kinda weird...1/32 Indian and she is claiming to be a minority....doesn't make any sense. It happens all the time at the college level, it is done for special privileges and perks.
Which is a right wing lie.
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
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